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Re: ACCP Grandfathering
Posted by: John (PID_1401), E-mail: johnathanhigley@aol.com, on November 05, 2002 at 22:29 :
In Reply to: Re: ACCP Grandfathering posted by : David Davies , E-mail: david_davies_100@hotmail.com, on October 08, 2002 at 05:18 :
: : PLEASE JOIN IN THE FORUM AT CINDE.
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: : The ACCP grandfather issue is important to us all.
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: : We need you input. Why is it good or not good for us?
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: : : : Hi,
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: : : : Recently seen a discussion on the Canadian INDE website That warrants a look.
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: : : : The subject matter deals with the recent decision of the ACCP to accept grandfathered Asnt in house tickets to the ACCP third party certification program.
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: : : : http://www.cinde.ca/cgi-bin/bb/YaBB.cgi?board=QandA
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: : : I think it defeats the purpose of having ACCP.
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: "I feel that grandfathering is an admission of failure by ASNT. The scheme has been available for several years and doesn't seem to have taken off. To build numbers in this way is just destroying the self esteem of people that passed the exams. Instead of trying to increase the number of qualified technicians by giving away certs, ASNT should work on the regulatory authorities to make central certification compulsory. There are other schemes such as PCN and CSWIP that don't have to resort to these tactics because they have the backing of the users. As a long time ASNT Level III I work to make companies act in a professional manner towards certification. I feel that grandfathering pulls the rug out from under my feet".
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I don't think its a failure of ASNT to force central certification upon the industry, rather a failure of the industry to recognise its benefits. I think its a good idea to grandfather in those who were reluctant in the past to join. Why spend the money to get centrally certified when its not a requirement, if ASNT did not do this then no one would have joined. At least now it has a chance of becoming a standard. In regards to demeaning others that have taken and passed the test, the recertification period will weed out those are not up to the task. I like you have been certified as an ASNT level III, but would spend the money to become centrally certified because it would not be of a benefit to myself or my company, however if this gets a foothold and becomes a standard I think most of the companies will realise the benefits.

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: : : PLEASE JOIN IN THE FORUM AT CINDE. : : . : : : The ACCP grandfather issue is important to us all. : : . : : : We need you input. Why is it good or not good for us? : : . : : . : : : : : : : : Hi, : : : : . : : : : : Recently seen a discussion on the Canadian INDE website That warrants a look. : : : : . : : : : : The subject matter deals with the recent decision of the ACCP to accept grandfathered Asnt in house tickets to the ACCP third party certification program. : : : : . : : : : : http://www.cinde.ca/cgi-bin/bb/YaBB.cgi?board=QandA : : : : . : : : : I think it defeats the purpose of having ACCP. : : : . : : . : : "I feel that grandfathering is an admission of failure by ASNT. The scheme has been available for several years and doesn't seem to have taken off. To build numbers in this way is just destroying the self esteem of people that passed the exams. Instead of trying to increase the number of qualified technicians by giving away certs, ASNT should work on the regulatory authorities to make central certification compulsory. There are other schemes such as PCN and CSWIP that don't have to resort to these tactics because they have the backing of the users. As a long time ASNT Level III I work to make companies act in a professional manner towards certification. I feel that grandfathering pulls the rug out from under my feet". : . . : I don't think its a failure of ASNT to force central certification upon the industry, rather a failure of the industry to recognise its benefits. I think its a good idea to grandfather in those who were reluctant in the past to join. Why spend the money to get centrally certified when its not a requirement, if ASNT did not do this then no one would have joined. At least now it has a chance of becoming a standard. In regards to demeaning others that have taken and passed the test, the recertification period will weed out those are not up to the task. I like you have been certified as an ASNT level III, but would spend the money to become centrally certified because it would not be of a benefit to myself or my company, however if this gets a foothold and becomes a standard I think most of the companies will realise the benefits. .

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