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Posted by: Jim Stuckless , E-mail: Address, on December 23, 2008 at 22:32 :
In Reply to: Re: ndt qualification??? posted by : Michel Couture , E-mail: Address, on December 23, 2008 at 15:30 :
Adam,
The difference between PCN and ASNT is quite substantial. PCN is the convening authority regarding NDE in the UK. They have extremely high standards and are recognized world wide as some of the best technicians available. ASNT is an American version similar to PCN in the UK and CGSB here in Canada. Not to offend any americans out there but both the UK and Canadian governing bodies provide their technicians with certifications that are more widely recognized and valued on a global market. If you want to "get in quick' and care little about getting really good at a lot of things....... take the ASNT route...... if you want to hit the job market with a highly developed skill set in a number of areas .... take the PCN training.... once its all over and you are finally certified....... you wont ever look back...... and your career will likely skyrocket shortly thereafter.
Good luck!

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: Adam,
: Looks to me like you're on the right track. Sorry I can't be more precise because I live in Canada and the process for certification maybe a little different and I don't know aboutt he British employment market. Maybe Nigel would be able to answer this one. In any case welcome to the trade and good luck.
: Cheerio's
: Michel
: : thank you for your feedback.
: : i am 21 from the north east of england, i am a painter by trade but wanting a change of career and am very interested in testing.
: : I have been looking around the internet for private courses bt am still unsure on the qualifications needed from an employer for a general tester.
: : I have been thinking of taking the courses below and if anyone could tell me if there is anything else needed for a basic tester looking for active work in the uk or abroad:
: : Liquid Penetrant Inspection Course. Combined Level 1 & 2
: : Magnetic Particle Inspection Course. Combined Level 1 & 2
: : Radiographic Course. Level 1 or Level 2
: : Basic Radiation Safety Course
: : the courses are from a company with a Authorised Qualifying Body of the PCN scheme
: : i would like to know if the courses above would be sufficient enough to gain employment as a basic ndt tester??
: : thank you for any help and im sorry if there isnt much information for anyone to go on as im still researching the subject myself.
: : : Adam
: : : Michel has made clear the eseential differneces in the two best-known certification schemes - central-certification versus employer-based, so I dont want add to that.
: : : You tell us nothing about yourself apart from your first name and age. However if its a long term career offering interest and insight into modern industrial world then NDT has excellent potential. there are many different process streams which need deiffering uses of both intrusive and non-intrusive inspections. From your email address you could be UK based in which case the proposed nuclear power plant construction programme would offer you excellent opportiunity.
: : : My advice is to hone your web research skills so that you can arm yourself with as much information as you can digest before thinking about certification - if you are keen then the certification will come in a form appropriate to the demands of the sector withhin which you work.
: : : I dont want to over-elaborate so I'll just wish you good luck.
: : : : Hi Adam,
: : : : I think it would help if we knew where you live. But in a nutshell, PCN stands for Personal Cerification in NDT, it is a Europeen Certification and is recognised world wide. ASNT stands for American Society of Non-destructive Testing, so as the name imply American, also recognised world wide. To obtain any Certification, you have to meet their requirements on education and time in the trade (apprentiship). Once you write and pass their exam, you will be certified in the method that you were seeking certification in.
: : : : A slight difference with ASNT is that there are two different type of Certification. One is the ACCP where you attend some approuved course, you go thru your apprentiship and then will write a Certification exam from the governing body (ie. ASNT). The other type of ASNT Certification is called the TC-1A Practice where you get your approuved course, go thru your apprentiship and write your Certification exam that is provided by your employer or the client of your employer. The draw back with the TC-1A is that if you loose your employment, you also loose your Certification. I believe that any Certification program that is recognised by a National body is a good one. It really depend on where you want to work and what you want to do with your life.
: : : : Good luck,
: : : : Michel
: : : : : my name is adam i'm 21 and thinking of starting a career in the NDT buisness, i am looking to achive qualifications from dye pen, mpi, radiography and ultrasonic.
: : : : : my problem is i've seen 2 different type's of the same qualification (PCN and ASNT) and i don't know the difference therefore dnt no which qualification to go for.
: : : : : if anyone could reply and actually tell me the difference and or the benefits between them i would be gratefull.
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----------- Start Original Message ----------- : Adam, : The difference between PCN and ASNT is quite substantial. PCN is the convening authority regarding NDE in the UK. They have extremely high standards and are recognized world wide as some of the best technicians available. ASNT is an American version similar to PCN in the UK and CGSB here in Canada. Not to offend any americans out there but both the UK and Canadian governing bodies provide their technicians with certifications that are more widely recognized and valued on a global market. If you want to "get in quick' and care little about getting really good at a lot of things....... take the ASNT route...... if you want to hit the job market with a highly developed skill set in a number of areas .... take the PCN training.... once its all over and you are finally certified....... you wont ever look back...... and your career will likely skyrocket shortly thereafter. : Good luck! : : : Adam, : : Looks to me like you're on the right track. Sorry I can't be more precise because I live in Canada and the process for certification maybe a little different and I don't know aboutt he British employment market. Maybe Nigel would be able to answer this one. In any case welcome to the trade and good luck. : : Cheerio's : : Michel : : : thank you for your feedback. : : : i am 21 from the north east of england, i am a painter by trade but wanting a change of career and am very interested in testing. : : : I have been looking around the internet for private courses bt am still unsure on the qualifications needed from an employer for a general tester. : : : I have been thinking of taking the courses below and if anyone could tell me if there is anything else needed for a basic tester looking for active work in the uk or abroad: : : : Liquid Penetrant Inspection Course. Combined Level 1 & 2 : : : Magnetic Particle Inspection Course. Combined Level 1 & 2 : : : Radiographic Course. Level 1 or Level 2 : : : Basic Radiation Safety Course : : : the courses are from a company with a Authorised Qualifying Body of the PCN scheme : : : i would like to know if the courses above would be sufficient enough to gain employment as a basic ndt tester?? : : : thank you for any help and im sorry if there isnt much information for anyone to go on as im still researching the subject myself. : : : : Adam : : : : Michel has made clear the eseential differneces in the two best-known certification schemes - central-certification versus employer-based, so I dont want add to that. : : : : You tell us nothing about yourself apart from your first name and age. However if its a long term career offering interest and insight into modern industrial world then NDT has excellent potential. there are many different process streams which need deiffering uses of both intrusive and non-intrusive inspections. From your email address you could be UK based in which case the proposed nuclear power plant construction programme would offer you excellent opportiunity. : : : : My advice is to hone your web research skills so that you can arm yourself with as much information as you can digest before thinking about certification - if you are keen then the certification will come in a form appropriate to the demands of the sector withhin which you work. : : : : I dont want to over-elaborate so I'll just wish you good luck. : : : : : Hi Adam, : : : : : I think it would help if we knew where you live. But in a nutshell, PCN stands for Personal Cerification in NDT, it is a Europeen Certification and is recognised world wide. ASNT stands for American Society of Non-destructive Testing, so as the name imply American, also recognised world wide. To obtain any Certification, you have to meet their requirements on education and time in the trade (apprentiship). Once you write and pass their exam, you will be certified in the method that you were seeking certification in. : : : : : A slight difference with ASNT is that there are two different type of Certification. One is the ACCP where you attend some approuved course, you go thru your apprentiship and then will write a Certification exam from the governing body (ie. ASNT). The other type of ASNT Certification is called the TC-1A Practice where you get your approuved course, go thru your apprentiship and write your Certification exam that is provided by your employer or the client of your employer. The draw back with the TC-1A is that if you loose your employment, you also loose your Certification. I believe that any Certification program that is recognised by a National body is a good one. It really depend on where you want to work and what you want to do with your life. : : : : : Good luck, : : : : : Michel : : : : : : my name is adam i'm 21 and thinking of starting a career in the NDT buisness, i am looking to achive qualifications from dye pen, mpi, radiography and ultrasonic. : : : : : : my problem is i've seen 2 different type's of the same qualification (PCN and ASNT) and i don't know the difference therefore dnt no which qualification to go for. : : : : : : if anyone could reply and actually tell me the difference and or the benefits between them i would be gratefull. ------------ End Original Message ------------

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