NDTnet - July 1996, Vol.1 No.07
NDT Net Bytes
Martin P. Jones
The Internet is more than the World-Wide Web (WWW)!
The WWW is growing at a staggering rate and for good reasons. With a click
of a mouse, one can visit web sites all over the world and see and hear a
wealth of information. However, there are other resources on the Internet
beyond the WWW, such as Inter Relay Chat (IRC) and Usenet newsgroups.
Usenet Newsgroup: sci.techniques.testing.nondestructive
In late 1994, I searched the Internet for a Usenet newsgroup or mailing list
that solely discussed nondestructive testing but found none. In Feb. 1995
I wrote a "Request for Discussion" which contained the proposed NDT
newsgroup charter. The NDT newsgroup charter was put to a vote in April
1995. During the one month voting period, Russell Austin of NTIAC and I
campaigned vigorously to spread the word to the NDT community of the
newsgroup vote. In June of 1995, the newsgroup passed by a margin of 198
"yes" to 18 "no" votes, representing people in 16 countries and was created
with the following key section in its charter:
"A newsgroup dedicated to the exchange of information and discussion of
issues relating to nondestructive testing of materials and structures.
Anyone interested will be welcome to participate in discussions about, but
not limited to:
Because many people have only e-mail and no access to newsgroups, I asked
Keith Pickens of SwRI to create an e-mail list gateway to the newsgroup.
Dr. Pickens kindly created the gateway and additionally created a FTP
archive site (ftp://ftp.nde.swri.edu/pub/nde and WWW page
(http://www.nde.swri.edu:8080) for the NDT newsgroup. To get on the NDT
e-mail list, send a message to "firstname.lastname@example.org" with a
command "subscribe'' in the body of the email message.
- NDT methods: x-radiography, acoustic emission, penetrant,
ultrasonics, magnetic particle, visual, thermography, eddy
current, leak testing, neutron radiography.
- Related NDT Methods: near infrared and Raman spectroscopy, magnetic
resonance imaging and/or spectroscopy, interferometry, shearography,
- NDT societies: the American Society for Nondestructive
Testing, New Zealand NDT Association, Canadian Society of NDT and other
- Related NDT societies: American Society for Testing and Materials,
American Society of Mechanical Engineering, American Welding Society and
- Employment opportunities within the NDT field.
- Educational resources.
- Upcoming NDT Conferences.
- Process monitoring and control.
- Medical applications of NDT."
The newsgroup is receiving about 3 to 4 posts per day with nearly all
containing either a good NDT question or answer. This is a credit to the
NDT community since the newsgroup is not moderated, meaning all messages to
it are posted. However, please read the NDT newsgroup charter (see
http://www.nde.swri.edu:8080/charter.html) for guidelines on what is
permissible to post.
Inter Relay Chat: The NDT Channel
Although e-mail and newsgroup messages can be sent and delivered within
minutes or seconds, this form of communication is not meant to be done in
real time. Although the messages may be waiting in the recipient's mailbox
one minute after being sent, it could take forever before they are read. In
contrast, with Inter Relay Chat (IRC) you can get near real time
interaction, not just between two people, but between dozens of people.
With IRC software, you can enter a channel where a particular subject of
interest is being discussed and type in via the keyboard a comment that will
be almost instantly seen by all who happen to currently be on that channel.
IRC is therefore the Internet equivalent to a telephone party line. The
interactive nature of IRC makes
it the most social oriented tool of the Internet.
You can connect to IRC if you have a PPP/SLIP connection to the Internet,
some IRC software, and a winsock. I do know that many universities provide
at least a unix/shell access to IRC for their students. If you have a
personal Internet account with a private service provider or you have access
to the internet only through your employer, please contact them to see what
they know about how to connect you to IRC. Some IRC software is freeware,
and I use MIRC which can be downloaded from
http://sunsite.nijenrode.nl/ftp/pub/mirc/ and it comes with a very good help
and instructions. If you run into problems maybe I can help if you tell me
the type of
connection to the Internet you have, including whether your computer is a
I will be maintaining a channel called#NDT each weekday from 12 midnight to
1 am and 7:30 am to 8:30 am EST during March, April, and May of 1996. The
channel #NDT is on the Efnet network and I suggest using the server
"irc.epix.net", although any other Efnet server will work. I am seeking
volunteers to assist me during the above time slots or volunteers who would
like to establish another time slot for the NDT channel. Discussion via IRC
is informal and this will serve as a suitable forum for discussion of
issues, like ISO 9712, that are currently challenging the NDT community.
However, I think IRC will gives us the opportunity to get to know our NDT
colleagues throughout the world on a personal level.
Martin P. Jones, Ph.D.- Materials Testing Internet Resources Great information!
Dr. Jones was born, raised and educated in Baltimore, Maryland. He received
his baccalaureate degree in Physics from the University of Maryland and
masters and doctoral degrees in Materials Science and Engineering from the
Johns Hopkins University. While in graduate school, he was employed as a
materials engineer at the National Institute of Standards and Technology
(NIST) in Gaithersburg, Maryland. His main areas of interest at NIST were
acoustic emission, ultrasound, and thermal wave imaging. He later worked
for eight years at the Aluminum Company of America (ALCOA) as a Senior
Engineer in nondestructive evaluation of various metals, ceramics, and
- GO TO NDT-Forum
- Information about the NewsGroup "sci.techniques.testing.nondestructive".
Search Newsgroups, is an excellent Search Tool for selecting former contributions.
- The Weekly IRC #NDT is a newly established NDT real-time discussion
channel. Here is the record for a former topic:
IRC Record: Novel
Methods for Generating Ultrasound" [01.June96]
- NDT Newsgroup Info: IRC #NDT Channel: Summer Break! [01.July96]
Rolf Diederichs 1.July 1996, email@example.com
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