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Jane Jiang
Jane Jiang
10:46 Aug-24-2015
Appt of level 3 NDT practitioner

Dear all, need your help.
Currently our NDT staff are level 2 certified by other organisation under the SNT-TC-1A standard. We have NDT procedures that are endorsed by NDT level 3 from other organisation (we paid a sum to get them reviewed and endorsed).

However, recent customer audit said that we have to appoint a level 3 practitioner and that all NDT staff must be certified by the company before work can commence. Is this true?
So far I never come across a situation whereby the company have to certify the NDT staff even though they already have an NDT certificate which is internationally recognised. Pls advise. Thanks

    
 
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Gokul Hrishikesh
NDT Inspector, PCN UT Level 3
India, Joined Jul 2013, 73

Gokul Hrishikesh

NDT Inspector, PCN UT Level 3
India,
Joined Jul 2013
73
11:04 Aug-24-2015
Re: Appt of level 3 NDT practitioner
In Reply to Jane Jiang at 10:46 Aug-24-2015 (Opening).

All your staff should be certified based on your company's written practice for training and certification of employees.
A Level 3 should take care of this.

    
 
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Gerald R. Reams
Engineering,
Industry, USA, Joined Aug 2012, 181

Gerald R. Reams

Engineering,
Industry,
USA,
Joined Aug 2012
181
20:46 Aug-24-2015
Re: Appt of level 3 NDT practitioner
In Reply to Gokul Hrishikesh at 11:04 Aug-24-2015 .

The employer is responsible for certifying their employees in accordance to the employer's written practice.

You written practice should specify how internationally recognized certifications apply to the employer's written practice.

    
 
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Jane Jiang
Jane Jiang
04:06 Aug-25-2015
Re: Appt of level 3 NDT practitioner
In Reply to Gerald R. Reams at 20:46 Aug-24-2015 .

Thank you Gokul & Gerald for the advise.
Currently our company does not have a written practice on the training and certification of Ndt inspectors. We only have work instructions on how to do dye penetrant test and got a 3rd party Ndt level 3 practitioner to review n endorse.
Found out that appt of a level 3 practitioner is costly compared to getting him review n endorse the work instruction. Is it mandatory to appt Ndt level 3?

    
 
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Azhar
Other,
TUV Middle East (TUV Nord), United Arab Emirates (UAE), Joined Apr 2006, 35

Azhar

Other,
TUV Middle East (TUV Nord),
United Arab Emirates (UAE),
Joined Apr 2006
35
07:06 Aug-25-2015
Re: Appt of level 3 NDT practitioner
In Reply to Jane Jiang at 10:46 Aug-24-2015 (Opening).

SNT TC 1A is employer based certification Scheme which allows employer to appoint a Certified Level 3 to approve and implement Written Practice and maintain certification of your Employees.

It depends on Auditor, how he is interpreting SNT TC 1A or what are his reservations for not accepting the certificates?

You have to ask following questions to your self;
Do you have your own written practice approved by Valid Level 3 certificate holder?
Have you made an agreement with certified L3 as consultant / appointed L3?
Is your all employees met the criteria mentioned in your WP and or SNT TC 1A?

Please let me know more about your concerns in order to propose you best solution.

Regards
Are your employees certification record is well maintained?

    
 
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Jane Jiang
Jane Jiang
08:27 Aug-25-2015
Re: Appt of level 3 NDT practitioner
In Reply to Azhar at 07:06 Aug-25-2015 .

Thanks Azhar,
1. My company only has work instruction on dye penetrant test procedure endorsed by level 3 Ndt practitioner from other company. We have only level 2 Ndt inspector to do the work.
2. We don't appoint level 3 practitioner perse.
3. Our Ndt inspector have Ndt certificate based on SNT-TC-1A.

My concern is whether I need to
1. Establish a procedure on training and certification of Ndt inspectors (mandatory?)
2. Appoint a level 3 practitioner from other company. (For many years we did not appoint but only get L3 practitioner to approve the WI. There is a huge cost diff between appointing n just approving this WI.)

    
 
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