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jamin patel
NDT Inspector, NDT LeveL-III @ UIC, KSA
Saudi Arabia, Joined Dec 2012, 100

jamin patel

NDT Inspector, NDT LeveL-III @ UIC, KSA
Saudi Arabia,
Joined Dec 2012
100
08:33 Oct-07-2015
ASME 2015

Dear mates,

If someone has acess to latest code of 2015 edition then,please clairy this which snt-tc 1a edition to be followed.

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sorrawut
Other, ASNT Level 3
Thailand, Joined May 2009, 9

sorrawut

Other, ASNT Level 3
Thailand,
Joined May 2009
9
09:16 Oct-07-2015
Re: ASME 2015
In Reply to jamin patel at 08:33 Oct-07-2015 (Opening).

Edition 2006

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jamin patel
NDT Inspector, NDT LeveL-III @ UIC, KSA
Saudi Arabia, Joined Dec 2012, 100

jamin patel

NDT Inspector, NDT LeveL-III @ UIC, KSA
Saudi Arabia,
Joined Dec 2012
100
09:24 Oct-07-2015
Re: ASME 2015
In Reply to sorrawut at 09:16 Oct-07-2015 .

dear sorrawut,

i think i heard about they will change edition to latest one. so to just confirm one still 2006 is aplicable to 2015 edition?

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Uday
Director, NDE Services, Inservice Inspection, ASME Code shop Level III Services, Training in NDE and API
KUB Quality Services Pvt. Ltd, India, Joined Apr 2000, 8

Uday

Director, NDE Services, Inservice Inspection, ASME Code shop Level III Services, Training in NDE and API
KUB Quality Services Pvt. Ltd,
India,
Joined Apr 2000
8
09:59 Oct-07-2015
Re: ASME 2015
In Reply to jamin patel at 09:24 Oct-07-2015 .

Table U-3 of ASME Sec VIII Div 1 still says Edition 2006

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jamin patel
NDT Inspector, NDT LeveL-III @ UIC, KSA
Saudi Arabia, Joined Dec 2012, 100

jamin patel

NDT Inspector, NDT LeveL-III @ UIC, KSA
Saudi Arabia,
Joined Dec 2012
100
10:07 Oct-07-2015
Re: ASME 2015
In Reply to Uday at 09:59 Oct-07-2015 .

@Uday yes i saw that portion,anyway if section 8 div 1 say means we can't comment anymore but asme surprisingly removed "2006 edition" word from section V that's strange it should be mentioned in section V 2015 edition.

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Diego
Consultant,
Freelance, Spain, Joined May 2013, 188

Diego

Consultant,
Freelance,
Spain,
Joined May 2013
188
12:25 Oct-07-2015
Re: ASME 2015
In Reply to jamin patel at 10:07 Oct-07-2015 .

Jamin above I show what ASME V / 2015 indicates.
[i) The user of this Article is responsible for the qualification and certification of NDE Personnel in accordance with the requirements of this Article. The organization's
(Note 4) Quality Program shall stipulate how this is to be accomplished. Qualifications in accordance with a prior edition of SNT -TC-1A, or CP-189 are valid until recertification. Recertification or new certification shall be in accordance with the edition of SNT-TC-1A or CP-189 specified in endnote 3 When any of the techniques included in (g) above are used, the additional requirements of that paragraph shall also apply.

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jamin patel
NDT Inspector, NDT LeveL-III @ UIC, KSA
Saudi Arabia, Joined Dec 2012, 100

jamin patel

NDT Inspector, NDT LeveL-III @ UIC, KSA
Saudi Arabia,
Joined Dec 2012
100
12:34 Oct-07-2015
Re: ASME 2015
In Reply to Diego at 12:25 Oct-07-2015 .

@ Diego you correct but thing is that they have not mentioned which edition to follow in end note 3!! that's the question.

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jamin patel
NDT Inspector, NDT LeveL-III @ UIC, KSA
Saudi Arabia, Joined Dec 2012, 100

jamin patel

NDT Inspector, NDT LeveL-III @ UIC, KSA
Saudi Arabia,
Joined Dec 2012
100
12:35 Oct-07-2015
Re: ASME 2015
In Reply to Diego at 12:25 Oct-07-2015 .

end note:3
SNT-TC-1A, “Personnel Qualification and Certification in Nondestructive Testing;” and ANSI/ASNT CP-189, “ASNT
Standard for Qualification and Certification of Nondestructive Testing Personnel;” and ANSI/ASNT CP-105, “ASNT
Standard for Qualification of Nondestructive Testing Personnel;” published by the American Society for Nondestructive
Testing, 1711 Arlingate Lane, P.O. Box 28518, Columbus, OH 43228-0518.

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Uday
Director, NDE Services, Inservice Inspection, ASME Code shop Level III Services, Training in NDE and API
KUB Quality Services Pvt. Ltd, India, Joined Apr 2000, 8

Uday

Director, NDE Services, Inservice Inspection, ASME Code shop Level III Services, Training in NDE and API
KUB Quality Services Pvt. Ltd,
India,
Joined Apr 2000
8
13:26 Oct-07-2015
Re: ASME 2015
In Reply to jamin patel at 12:35 Oct-07-2015 .

@Jamin, in my opinion it is governed by Construction Code. That is why i was referring to Table U3 in Section VIII Div 1.
Regards,

    
 
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Dent
Consultant, NDE Manager NDELevel III/3
NDT Consultant, Canada, Joined Nov 1998, 248

Dent

Consultant, NDE Manager NDELevel III/3
NDT Consultant,
Canada,
Joined Nov 1998
248
16:30 Oct-07-2015
Re: ASME 2015
In Reply to jamin patel at 08:33 Oct-07-2015 (Opening).

I have access to all of them.
The only section of ASME that has changed to the 2011 edition of SNT TC 1A is the nuclear one Section III.

All others still at 2006.

    
 
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Anmol Biring
Consultant,
Birring NDE Center, Inc., USA, Joined Aug 2011, 746

Anmol Biring

Consultant,
Birring NDE Center, Inc.,
USA,
Joined Aug 2011
746
19:43 Oct-07-2015
Re: ASME 2015
In 2015 ASME V added supplemental Mandatory requirements for Level for I, II, and III personnel performing PAUT, TOFD, CR and DR. Refer to Mandatory Appendix II of Article 1.
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jamin patel
NDT Inspector, NDT LeveL-III @ UIC, KSA
Saudi Arabia, Joined Dec 2012, 100

jamin patel

NDT Inspector, NDT LeveL-III @ UIC, KSA
Saudi Arabia,
Joined Dec 2012
100
07:20 Oct-08-2015
Re: ASME 2015
In Reply to Anmol Biring at 19:43 Oct-07-2015 .

yes anmol,
that's correct there is some additional training req. specified.

I have gone through 2006 and 2011 edition and i see there is no such TOFD & PAUT related training and other portion in 2006 edition!! still we have to follow that one,isn't it amazing !!

    
 
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Anmol Birring
Consultant,
Birring NDE Center, Inc., USA, Joined Aug 2011, 746

Anmol Birring

Consultant,
Birring NDE Center, Inc.,
USA,
Joined Aug 2011
746
09:52 Oct-08-2015
Re: ASME 2015
In Reply to jamin patel at 07:20 Oct-08-2015 .

For ASME V 2015, you must meet the requirements of Article 1, Appendix II and refers to SNT-TC-1A 2011 course outlines for PAUT, TOFD, CR and DR

    
 
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Oliviero
NDT Inspector,
Quality Control srl, Italy, Joined Oct 2008, 414

Oliviero

NDT Inspector,
Quality Control srl,
Italy,
Joined Oct 2008
414
22:28 Oct-10-2015
Re: ASME 2015
In Reply to jamin patel at 08:33 Oct-07-2015 (Opening).

The ASME BPVC sect. V forgot the SNT-TC-1A and CP 189 edition for a type mistake. Into the draft, before printing, the edition should have been 2006 and included into paragraphs T-120 (e)(1) and T-120 (e)(2).
The edition 2011 of either SNT-TC-1A and CP 189 has been included in section III.
Other sections are still using edition 2006.
Furthermore the sect. V added the Mandatory Appendix II af article 1 with supplemental requirements for personnel qualification and certification. These supplemental requirements are relevant to some techniques of methods UT (TOFD, Phased Array) and RT (Computed radiography and Digital Radiography).
Please take care that these supplemental requirements are more stringent than SNT-TC-1A 2011 edition.
My suggestion is to include into your Written Practice both 2006 and 2011 edition of SNT-TC-1A and the supplemental requirements of article 1 Appendix II.

    
 
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Iman
Iran, Joined Oct 2015, 3

Iman

Iran,
Joined Oct 2015
3
11:44 Oct-12-2015
Re: ASME 2015
In Reply to jamin patel at 08:33 Oct-07-2015 (Opening).

Hi Dear
it is depend on wp

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