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Amilcar D
NDT Inspector,
Peru, Joined Nov 2016, 2

Amilcar D

NDT Inspector,
Peru,
Joined Nov 2016
2
23:26 Sep-21-2018
a level III inspector in UT or MT can sign a certificate of a level II inspector in electromagnetic tests


a level III inspector in UT or MT can sign the certificate of a level II inspector in electromagnetic or other tests in which it is not certified??? thank

 
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Michel Couture
NDT Inspector,
consultant, Canada, Joined Sep 2006, 850

Michel Couture

NDT Inspector,
consultant,
Canada,
Joined Sep 2006
850
17:13 Sep-27-2018
Re: a level III inspector in UT or MT can sign a certificate of a level II inspector in electromagnetic tests
In Reply to Amilcar D at 23:26 Sep-21-2018 (Opening).

What certificate are we talking about and when you are refering to Electromagnetic testing what are you refering to Eddy Current or MT? A level 3 can sign for certification of the method he/she hold, but I doubt very much that Level 3 would be edaquate to sign for a method for which is doesn't hold the certification himself. I know it is not alway true, but certification in the eyes of the law signify knowledge and competence.

 
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Bruce McPherson
Consultant
MFL Services, United Kingdom, Joined Mar 2009, 26

Bruce McPherson

Consultant
MFL Services,
United Kingdom,
Joined Mar 2009
26
09:31 Oct-01-2018
Re: a level III inspector in UT or MT can sign a certificate of a level II inspector in electromagnetic tests
In Reply to Amilcar D at 23:26 Sep-21-2018 (Opening).

No, a level III can only certify people up to level II in the methods held by the level III
In your example, the level III can only certify people up to level II in UT and MT, because those are the methods held by the level III
Electromagnetic inspection, either eddy current or MFL is not MT and therefore an MT level III cannot certify them.

Best Regards

Bruce McPherson

 
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Rafid O. López
, NDT Level 3
Mexico, Joined Jan 2010, 79

Rafid O. López

, NDT Level 3
Mexico,
Joined Jan 2010
79
13:49 Oct-01-2018
Re: a level III inspector in UT or MT can sign a certificate of a level II inspector in electromagnetic tests
In Reply to Bruce McPherson at 09:31 Oct-01-2018 .

Dears

It is very important to understand the diference between CERTIFICATION & QUALIFICATION process.

A Level 3 in one method, can CERTIFY personnel in ALL methods because the Level 3 will only VERIFY that qualification documents (training, examinations, etc.) that were signed by the Level 3 for that specific method are correct and that the Level 3 really is certified in a correct form.

A Level 3 in ONE method can CERTIFY to the personnel in ALL METHODS but, what this Level 3 cannot do is QUALIFY personnel in methods in which he is NOT certified.

The Level 3 designated, is the responsible of the CERTIFICATION process and also, it is very important to put this point in the written practice for the Certifying Authority. The Certifying Authority can be the Level 3 designated by the company or the Quality Director or HR Manager, this personn must be identifying in the written practice.

And also, this is permitted by SNT-TC-1A in the document INTERPRETING SNT-TC-1A issued by ASNT.

Inquiry 09-1

Response
1. This question refers to two separate
issues.
a. Can an NDT Level III sign off
on certifications in methods for
which he is not qualified? Yes.
Signing off on certification is
covered by Section 9.0,
Certification Record, and
Paragraph 9.4.9 states that a
person’s certification record must
have the signature of the
Level III who verified the
qualifications of a candidate for
certification. It does not require
that this Level III be certified in
the applicable test methods. See
Inquiry 90-1 Part 1.

I wrote about this in another post.

Regards.

 
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