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Dinev
Dinev
03:57 Nov-12-1999
Message.

As with accuracy to measure of factor of absorption and speed of a sound in a liquid. For example milk.


 
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Jean Paul van Cuyck
Director
A2MS, Applied Acoustics, Materials and Systems, France, Joined Nov 1998, 13

Jean Paul van Cuyck

Director
A2MS, Applied Acoustics, Materials and Systems,
France,
Joined Nov 1998
13
05:58 Nov-13-1999
Re: Message.
: As with accuracy to measure of factor of absorption and speed of a sound in a liquid. For example milk.

If I understand well, your request is the precision we
can expect for sound speed meausrement and sound attenuation.

This value is dependant of your experimental setup,
electronics performances, and dimension measurement accuracy.

usually 1/100, we can expect 1/1000 m/s accuracy in ultrasonics speed
measurement with higth precaution procedure.

The attenuation accuracy depend on the same parameters
and also frequency use. For materials with higth
attenuation You can't perform the soound propagation
on big length, so your accuracy is limited.

Can you precise your application, please

J.P. van Cuyck

A2MS, Applied Acoustics, Materials and Systems
"Le Grand Luminy",
Luminy Scientific Park
13 288 Marseilles Cedex
France
Tel +33 491 828 494
Fax +33 491 828 485


 
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Dr. Amos Mizrach
Engineering, R&D
Institute of Agricultural Engineering - The Volcani Center, Israel, Joined Oct 1999, 3

Dr. Amos Mizrach

Engineering, R&D
Institute of Agricultural Engineering - The Volcani Center,
Israel,
Joined Oct 1999
3
09:28 Nov-14-1999
absoption and speed of sound in milk.
: As with accuracy to measure of factor of absorption and speed of a sound in a liquid. For example milk.

This subject is interesting for me (especially wave sound in milk).
I'll be glad to get further information about applications of ultrasound in sound measurements in MILK.
Is someone manufacturing such equipment?
Thanks


 
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Ed Ginzel
R & D, -
Materials Research Institute, Canada, Joined Nov 1998, 1274

Ed Ginzel

R & D, -
Materials Research Institute,
Canada,
Joined Nov 1998
1274
08:44 Nov-14-1999
Re: absoption and speed of sound in milk.
An associate of mine, Dr. N.D.Patel, has made a system specifically for acoustic velocity and
attenuation measurements.
He has done measurement with milk and it can measure one drop of milk in 50 drops of water.
Important is that velocity is also function of temperature and thus we can use comparator
measurement and we should be able to measure very accurately. There is quite difference in 1%,
2 %, Homo and lactose free milk. The system can measure with 50 picosec accuracy.
Dr. Patel's email is fallon@netcom.ca

: : As with accuracy to measure of factor of absorption and speed of a sound in a liquid. For example milk.

: This subject is interesting for me (especially wave sound in milk).
: I'll be glad to get further information about applications of ultrasound in sound measurements in MILK.
: Is someone manufacturing such equipment?
: Thanks




 
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Pim van Andel
Pim van Andel
00:09 Nov-15-1999
Re: absoption and speed of sound in milk.
: : As with accuracy to measure of factor of absorption and speed of a sound in a liquid. For example milk.

: This subject is interesting for me (especially wave sound in milk).
: I'll be glad to get further information about applications of ultrasound in sound measurements in MILK.
: Is someone manufacturing such equipment?
: Thanks

Take a look at www.rhosonics.nl
They have equipment and sensors for in-line measurements.
The ultrasonic sensor has a build in temperature sensor
that is realy needed for high accuracy concentration measurements with temperature compensation.



 
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