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eugenio
SGS, Italy, Joined Dec 2018, 5

eugenio

SGS,
Italy,
Joined Dec 2018
5
11:21 Apr-22-2019
ASME V art 14

Good morning to all
could someone explain me how to approach at art 14 of ASME V? Who is in charge to organize performance demonstration and record the results?
is it the ndt company or the Customer that ask for examinations?
Thank You

    
 
 
Edward Ginzel
R & D, -
Materials Research Institute, Canada, Joined Nov 1998, 1252

Edward Ginzel

R & D, -
Materials Research Institute,
Canada,
Joined Nov 1998
1252
13:51 Apr-22-2019
Re: ASME V art 14
In Reply to eugenio at 11:21 Apr-22-2019 (Opening).

Eugenio, this is an interesting question. Article 14 in ASME V is in some ways like the ENIQ process. According to the Scope (T-1410) it is apparently only required when "specifically invoked by the referencing Code Section". Yet I have yet to find a section in ASME that specifically requires Article 14. Perhaps others more familiar with ASME BPVC can point out the specific location(s) where Article 14 is invoked.

As for who is responsible for what, when doing an Article 14 qualification, it does not seem to be specifically detailed.

T-1441 describes the involvement of a Level II, even before the qualification; "Prior to qualification of any examination system, regardless of the level of rigor, a technical justification report shall be prepared and receive approval by a Level III certified for the specific method to be applied."
It does not explain which party the Level III is supposed to represent.
It seem odd to me that a Technical Justification is prepared PRIOR to the qualification. In our ENIQ work, the Technical Justification is part of the qualification in that you must justify the effectiveness of the technique being used. The Article 14 approach seems more concerned with the performance of inspection personnel than with the effectiveness of the inspection technique.

There is a paragraph (T-1451) that describes the "Protocol Document". This is essentially the document describing the procedure to carry out the qualification. It is stated in that paragraph that "This document is developed collectively with the involvement of all the affected parties (i.e., the owner, and, when applicable, the Jurisdiction, AIA, independent third party, examination vendor, or other involved party).

The Article 14 process therefore seems to be involving a consortium of parties. Perhaps the Protocol Document "could" be where you would describe the responsibilities of the various parties, including who is responsible for organising the demonstration and recording results.

    
 
 
eugenio
SGS, Italy, Joined Dec 2018, 5

eugenio

SGS,
Italy,
Joined Dec 2018
5
12:19 Apr-29-2019
Re: ASME V art 14
In Reply to Edward Ginzel at 13:51 Apr-22-2019 .

Thanks Ed, Your help is so prescious.......as usual

    
 
 

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