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02:20 Nov-09-2007

David Mackintosh

Engineering,
Acuren Group Inc.,
Canada,
Joined Feb 2011
85
NDT on wikipedia

A google search for "nondestructive testing" turns up NDT.net and Wikipedia in the top 5. Since anyone can contribute to Wikipedia, it would be worthwhile for NDT professionals to promote their trade by creating informative articles on Wikipedia.

For example, the Wikipedia article on UT needs a lot of work. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrasonic_testing

There is no conflict with NDT. net, since the NDT.net encyclopedia is a collection of definitions and miscellaneous information rather than encyclopedic articles.

Your opinion?

David Mackintosh



 
08:08 Nov-09-2007

Rolf Diederichs

Director, Editor, Publisher, Internet, PHP MySQL
NDT.net,
Germany,
Joined Nov 1998
602
Re: NDT on wikipedia David,

Why we should work for Wikipedia, while we have a much better NDT Encyclopedia developed just some months ago here at NDT.net?
We decided to do our own with a lot of efforts because we discovered many disadvantages of Wikipedia.
Also it is not true that NDT.net encyclopedia provides just a glossary rather than articles. We may need a filter to make many new articles better visible. At the moment the NDT.net editor advisory board can submit new content, but this will be open soon for all forum members.
Someone who wants to submit already now content to the encyclopedia can get an account already now.

For more details please remember our introduction at:
http://www.ndt.net/news/files/4556.php

Rolf

----------- Start Original Message -----------
: A google search for "nondestructive testing" turns up NDT.net and Wikipedia in the top 5. Since anyone can contribute to Wikipedia, it would be worthwhile for NDT professionals to promote their trade by creating informative articles on Wikipedia.
: For example, the Wikipedia article on UT needs a lot of work. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrasonic_testing
: There is no conflict with NDT. net, since the NDT.net encyclopedia is a collection of definitions and miscellaneous information rather than encyclopedic articles.
: Your opinion?
: David Mackintosh
------------ End Original Message ------------




 
00:58 Nov-09-2007

David Mackintosh

Engineering,
Acuren Group Inc.,
Canada,
Joined Feb 2011
85
Re: NDT on wikipedia ----------- Start Original Message -----------
: A google search for "nondestructive testing" turns up NDT.net and Wikipedia in the top 5. Since anyone can contribute to Wikipedia, it would be worthwhile for NDT professionals to promote their trade by creating informative articles on Wikipedia.
: For example, the Wikipedia article on UT needs a lot of work. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrasonic_testing
: There is no conflict with NDT. net, since the NDT.net encyclopedia is a collection of definitions and miscellaneous information rather than encyclopedic articles.
: Your opinion?
: David Mackintosh

: : David,
: : Why we should work for Wikipedia, while we have a much better NDT Encyclopedia developed just some months ago here at NDT.net?
: : We decided to do our own with a lot of efforts because we discovered many disadvantages of Wikipedia.
: : Also it is not true that NDT.net encyclopedia provides just a glossary rather than articles. We may need a filter to make many new articles better visible. At the moment the NDT.net editor advisory board can submit new content, but this will be open soon for all forum members.
: : Someone who wants to submit already now content to the encyclopedia can get an account already now.
: : For more details please remember our introduction at:
: : http://www.ndt.net/news/files/4556.php
: : Rolf
------------ End Original Message ------------

Rolf:

I see your point. The new NDT.net Encyclopedia just needs a little development and organization. For instance when you click on Ultrasonic testing it immediately pops up with 500 definitions. It's further down under "quick search" that you find the excellent hand-picked articles on UT.

It's worthwhile creating decent articles on Wikipedia simply because that's where the public goes for general information. Wikipedia points to NDT.net and NDT-ed.org for more in-depth information.

NDT-ed.org has good educational material, but nothing approaches NDT.net for quality and quantity of technical information -- including other professional websites.

David

See:
http://www.ndt-ed.org/EducationResources/educationresource.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nondestructive_testing



 
04:48 Nov-10-2007

Ed Ginzel

R & D, -
Materials Research Institute,
Canada,
Joined Nov 1998
1208
Re: NDT on wikipedia David:
It is only my personal opinion, but I get the impression from Wikipedia that it generally serves as a source of information for the entire planet. NDT.net sort of does too....but focuses on the NDT community specifically. It is great that Wikipedia has a link to our interest group. But NDT.net has other functions too. I have been participating with NDT.net since before it was NDT.net when it was the NDT Newsgroup with just Marty, Rolf, Rocky and myself. That group of 4 has grown. There are now over 2300 people as forum members alone (plus thousands of other users).
The terminology on our NDT.net Encyclopaedia is not always suitable for the general public and often uses colloquialisms unique to our (English) useage in the industry. It even includes some incorrect concepts (like the creeping wave). But the NDT.net encyclopaedia can be modified as required (so can Wikipedia, but I suspect the NDT section there is not as well monitored/used as NDT.net).
I am sure with your enthusiasm for this kind of educational venue you can probably be a significant contributor to the NDT.net encyclopaedia and your suggestions (and help) for methods to enhance its appearance and functionality are most welcome!
Ed

----------- Start Original Message -----------
: : A google search for "nondestructive testing" turns up NDT.net and Wikipedia in the top 5. Since anyone can contribute to Wikipedia, it would be worthwhile for NDT professionals to promote their trade by creating informative articles on Wikipedia.
: : For example, the Wikipedia article on UT needs a lot of work. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrasonic_testing
: : There is no conflict with NDT. net, since the NDT.net encyclopedia is a collection of definitions and miscellaneous information rather than encyclopedic articles.
: : Your opinion?
: : David Mackintosh
: : : David,
: : : Why we should work for Wikipedia, while we have a much better NDT Encyclopedia developed just some months ago here at NDT.net?
: : : Wedecided to do our own with a lot of efforts because we discovered many disadvantages of Wikipedia.
: : : Also it is not true that NDT.net encyclopedia provides just a glossary rather than articles. We may need a filter to make many new articles better visible. At the moment the NDT.net editor advisory board can submit new content, but this will be open soon for all forum members.
: : : Someone who wants to submit already now content to the encyclopedia can get an account already now.
: : : For more details please remember our introduction at:
: : : http://www.ndt.net/news/files/4556.php
: : : Rolf
: Rolf:
: I see your point. The new NDT.net Encyclopedia just needs a little development and organization. For instance when you click on Ultrasonic testing it immediately pops up with 500 definitions. It's further down under "quick search" that you find the excellent hand-picked articles on UT.
: It's worthwhile creating decent articles on Wikipedia simply because that's where the public goes for general information. Wikipedia points to NDT.net and NDT-ed.org for more in-depth information.
: NDT-ed.org has good educational material, but nothing approaches NDT.net for quality and quantity of technical information -- including other professional websites.
: David
: See:
: http://www.ndt-ed.org/EducationResources/educationresource.htm
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nondestructive_testing
------------ End Original Message ------------




 
03:43 Nov-12-2007
David D
Re: NDT on wikipedia I feel that the Wikipedia is a potential valuable resource but is too unregulated, just look at the number of edits on the ultrasonic page.
Pity there isn't a basic theory half page with links to specific areas of interest, but I'm sure anyone posting that would soon get overwritten.
The good thing is that there are links to established and controlled sites so anyone wishing to pursue can at least get reasoned and unbiased information.
Rolf, please keep editorial control over at least the core segments of NDT.net as we don't want this valuable resource to degenerate into shameless product promotion.

----------- Start Original Message -----------
: David:
: It is only my personal opinion, but I get the impression from Wikipedia that it generally serves as a source of information for the entire planet. NDT.net sort of does too....but focuses on the NDT community specifically. It is great that Wikipedia has a link to our interest group. But NDT.net has other functions too. I have been participating with NDT.net since before it was NDT.net when it was the NDT Newsgroup with just Marty, Rolf, Rocky and myself. That group of 4 has grown. There are now over 2300 people as forum members alone (plus thousands of other users).
: The terminology on our NDT.net Encyclopaedia is not always suitable for the general public and often uses colloquialisms unique to our (English) useage in the industry. It even includes some incorrect concepts (like the creeping wave). But the NDT.net encyclopaedia can be modified as required (so can Wikipedia, but I suspect the NDT section there is not as well monitored/used as NDT.net).
: I am sure with your enthusiasm for this kind of educational venue you can probably be a significant contributor to the NDT.net encyclopaedia and your suggestions (and help) for methods to enhance its appearance and functionality are most welcome!
: Ed
:
: : : A google search for "nondestructive testing" turns up NDT.net and Wikipedia in the top 5. Since anyone can contribute to Wikipedia, it would be worthwhile for NDT professionals to promote their trade by creating informative articles on Wikipedia.
: : : For example, the Wikipedia article on UT needs a lot of work. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrasonic_testing
: : : There is no conflict with NDT. net, since the NDT.net encyclopedia is a collection of definitions and miscellaneous information rather than encyclopedic articles.
: : : Your opinion?
: : : David Mackintosh
: : : : David,
: : : : Why we should work for Wikipedia, while we have a much better NDT Encyclopedia developed just some months ago here at NDT.net?
: : : : We decided to do our own with a lot of efforts because we discovered many disadvantages of Wikipedia.
: : : : Also it is not true that NDT.net encyclopedia provides just a glossary rather than articles. We may need a filter to make many new articles better visible. At the moment the NDT.net editor advisory board can submit new content, but this will be open soon for all forum members.
: : : : Someone who wants to submit already now content to the encyclopedia can get an account already now.
: : : : For more details please remember our introduction at:
: : : : http://www.ndt.net/news/files/4556.php
: : : : Rolf
: : Rolf:
: : I see your point. The new NDT.net Encyclopedia just needs a little development and organization. For instance when you click on Ultrasonic testing it immediately pops up with 500 definitions. It's further down under "quick search" that you find the excellent hand-picked articles on UT.
: : It's worthwhile creating decent articles on Wikipedia simply because that's where the public goes for general information. Wikipedia points to NDT.net and NDT-ed.org for more in-depth information.
: : NDT-ed.org has good educational material, but nothing approaches NDT.net for quality and quantity of technical information -- including other professional websites.
: : David
: : See:
: : http://www.ndt-ed.org/EducationResources/educationresource.htm
: : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nondestructive_testing
------------ End Original Message ------------




 
03:26 Nov-12-2007

Rocky

Engineering
Milky Way Jewels,
USA,
Joined Nov 1998
40
Re: NDT on wikipedia Wikipedia is less valuable because it's contributions are unattributed and close to valueless to professionals for this reason. This is both because a reader cannot evaluate the qualifications or prejudice of the writer and because the information is often of medium quality and occasionally poor quality. This has been true whenever I have looked at information in depth. It is remarkabley handy for defining words, although even then caution is wise.

----------- Start Original Message -----------
: I feel that the Wikipedia is a potential valuable resource but is too unregulated, just look at the number of edits on the ultrasonic page.
: Pity there isn't a basic theory half page with links to specific areas of interest, but I'm sure anyone posting that would soon get overwritten.
: The good thing is that there are links to established and controlled sites so anyone wishing to pursue can at least get reasoned and unbiased information.
: Rolf, please keep editorial control over at least the core segments of NDT.net as we don't want this valuable resource to degenerate into shameless product promotion.
: : David:
: : It is only my personal opinion, but I get the impression from Wikipedia that it generally serves as a source of information for the entire planet. NDT.net sort of does too....but focuses on the NDT community specifically. It is great that Wikipedia has a link to our interest group. But NDT.net has other functions too. I have been participating with NDT.net since before it was NDT.net when it was the NDT Newsgroup with just Marty, Rolf, Rocky and myself. That group of 4 has grown. There are now over 2300 people as forum members alone (plus thousands of other users).
: : The terminology on our NDT.net Encyclopaedia is not always suitable for the general public and often uses colloquialisms unique to our (English) useage in the industry. It even includes some incorrect concepts (like the creeping wave). But the NDT.net encyclopaedia can be modified as required (so can Wikipedia, but I suspect the NDT section there is not as well monitored/used as NDT.net).
: : I am sure with your enthusiasm for this kind of educational venue you can probably be a significant contributor to the NDT.net encyclopaedia and your suggestions (and help) for methods to enhance its appearance and functionality are most welcome!
: : Ed
: :
: : : : A google search for "nondestructive testing" turns up NDT.net and Wikipedia in the top 5. Since anyone can contribute to Wikipedia, it would be worthwhile for NDT professionals to promote their trade by creating informative articles on Wikipedia.
: : : : For example, the Wikipedia article on UT needs a lot of work. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrasonic_testing
: : : : There is no conflict with NDT. net, since the NDT.net encyclopedia is a collection of definitions and miscellaneous information rather than encyclopedic articles.
: : : : Your opinion?
: : : : David Mackintosh
: : : : : David,
: : : : : Why we should work for Wikipedia, while we have a much better NDT Encyclopedia developed just some months ago here at NDT.net?
: : : : : We decided to do our own with a lot of efforts because we discovered many disadvantages of Wikipedia.
: : : : : Also it is not true that NDT.net encyclopedia provides just a glossary rather than articles. We may need a filter to make many new articles better visible. At the moment the NDT.net editor advisory board can submit new content, but this will be open soon for all forum members.
: : : : : Someone who wants to submit already now content to the encyclopedia can get an account already now.
: : : : : For more details please remember our introduction at:
: : : : : http://www.ndt.net/news/files/4556.php
: : : : : Rolf
: : : Rolf:
: : : I see your point. The new NDT.net Encyclopedia just needs a little development and organization. For instance when you click on Ultrasonic testing it immediately pops up with 500 definitions. It's further down under "quick search" that you find the excellent hand-picked articles on UT.
: : : It's worthwhile creating decent articles on Wikipedia simply because that's where the public goes for general information. Wikipedia points to NDT.net and NDT-ed.org for more in-depth information.
: : : NDT-ed.org has good educational material, but nothing approaches NDT.net for quality and quantity of technical information -- including other professional websites.
: : : David
: : : See:
: : : http://www.ndt-ed.org/EducationResources/educationresource.htm
: : : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nondestructive_testing
------------ End Original Message ------------




 


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