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Ultrasonic Sciences Ltd
We specialize in the design and manufacture of automated and semi-automated ultrasonic testing systems, including multi axis, multi channels systems and phased array electronics.

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ian pearson
ian pearson
02:19 Sep-12-2008
where to begin in ut

a while back i took a ut level 2 course and although passed the theory with excellent marks just narrowly failed the practical side.In a catch 22 scenario i think i needed more experience to get a total grasp on the practical side but hard to gain experience without the certification!! Any suggestion guys,last time you were all very helpful,i havent given up on this ,im thinking perhaps do another training course but ask them only for the practical side hmmm.I was hoping then to get an entree level ndt job.


    
 
 
Luis Santoyo
NDT Inspector
SERVICIOS DE INSPECCION TESTEK, Venezuela, Joined Jun 2007, 2

Luis Santoyo

NDT Inspector
SERVICIOS DE INSPECCION TESTEK,
Venezuela,
Joined Jun 2007
2
03:28 Sep-12-2008
Re: where to begin in ut
Ian,
You should try, if possible, go out with experienced inspector and watch them doing the job, then try yourself. It is no easy if you are not working in UT but is possible. Here in Venezuela I was able to help on calibrations to experienced level II, and after they perform the inspection, I was able to check the parts where they found flaws and I started to gain experience whit that.
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: a while back i took a ut level 2 course and although passed the theory with excellent marks just narrowly failed the practical side.In a catch 22 scenario i think i needed more experience to get a total grasp on the practical side but hard to gain experience without the certification!! Any suggestion guys,last time you were all very helpful,i havent given up on this ,im thinking perhaps do another training course but ask them only for the practical side hmmm.I was hoping then to get an entree level ndt job.
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ian pearson
ian pearson
00:31 Sep-13-2008
Re: where to begin in ut
luis thanks for yr prompt reply ,yes watching an experienced ndt technician would be great and id pass the practical then easily but problem is every job ive seen states either must have experience or certification,anyway thanks again appreciate it.


    
 
 
Justin Lehmann
Consultant,
Quality Testing Services, Inc, A Premium Inspection and Testing Group Affiliate, USA, Joined Sep 2007, 22

Justin Lehmann

Consultant,
Quality Testing Services, Inc, A Premium Inspection and Testing Group Affiliate,
USA,
Joined Sep 2007
22
03:17 Sep-16-2008
Re: where to begin in ut
Ian,

Louis had a great suggestion. If that does not work for you, I would like to offer you another solution.

Here at Quality Testing Services, Inc., we have a technical training program that not only offers training but the required hands-on experience, as well. The program consists of training in accordance with SNT-TC-1A and NAS-410. Following training you will then work with our certified personnel to obtain experience hours. The best part about the program is this: WE PAY YOU A WAGE DURING YOUR HANDS-ON EXPERIENCE!!! We offer several programs to meet your needs. We offer a basic program that consists of Radiation Safety, MT and PT. Our Advanced program consists of MT, PT, RT and UT. Our Premium program consists of MT, PT, RT, UT, ET, VT and Radiation Safety.

If you would like more information about this exciting program, please contact us and we can schedule a tour of our facility.

Best Regards,
Justin Lehmann
Manager - Training and Consulting Services
Quality Testing Services, Inc
2305 Millpark Dr
St. Louis, MO 63043
314-770-0607
314-770-0103 fax
314-575-7485 cell
jcl@qualitytesting.net


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: Ian,
: You should try, if possible, go out with experienced inspector and watch them doing the job, then try yourself. It is no easy if you are not working in UT but is possible. Here in Venezuela I was able to help on calibrations to experienced level II, and after they perform the inspection, I was able to check the parts where they found flaws and I started to gain experience whit that.
: : a while back i took a ut level 2 course and although passed the theory with excellent marks just narrowly failed the practical side.In a catch 22 scenario i think i needed more experience to get a total grasp on the practical side but hard to gain experience without the certification!! Any suggestion guys,last time you were all very helpful,i havent given up on this ,im thinking perhaps do another training course but ask them only for the practical side hmmm.I was hoping then to get an entree level ndt job.
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Navita Gupta
Navita Gupta
08:09 Sep-16-2008
Re: where to begin in ut
Hi Ian
Many in India face a similar situation. We as an accredited training centre help our candidates to overcome this problem by concentrating on their weak areas. People with problems in theory get to spend more time in the theory sessions, while people with lack of appropriate exposure in the practicals get to spend more time on practicals.
If you are coming to India, Delhi, we can help you come out of this catch 22 situation. Till then regards and best wishes
----------- Start Original Message -----------
: Ian,
: Louis had a great suggestion. If that does not work for you, I would like to offer you another solution.
: Here at Quality Testing Services, Inc., we have a technical training program that not only offers training but the required hands-on experience, as well. The program consists of training in accordance with SNT-TC-1A and NAS-410. Following training you will then work with our certified personnel to obtain experience hours. The best part about the program is this: WE PAY YOU A WAGE DURING YOUR HANDS-ON EXPERIENCE!!! We offer several programs to meet your needs. We offer a basic program that consists of Radiation Safety, MT and PT. Our Advanced program consists of MT, PT, RT and UT. Our Premium program consists of MT, PT, RT, UT, ET, VT and Radiation Safety.
: If you would like more information about this exciting program, please contact us and we can schedule a tour of our facility.
: Best Regards,
: Justin Lehmann
: Manager - Training and Consulting Services
: Quality Testing Services, Inc
: 2305 Millpark Dr
: St. Louis, MO 63043
: 314-770-0607
: 314-770-0103 fax
: 314-575-7485 cell
: jcl@qualitytesting.net
:
: : Ian,
: : You should try, if possible, go out with experienced inspector and watch them doing the job, then try yourself. It is no easy if you are not working in UT but is possible. Here in Venezuela I was able to help on calibrations to experienced level II, and after they perform the inspection, I was able tocheck the parts where they found flaws and I started to gain experience whit that.
: : : a while back i took a ut level 2 course and although passed the theory with excellent marks just narrowly failed the practical side.In a catch 22 scenario i think i needed more experience to get a total grasp on the practical side but hard to gain experience without the certification!! Any suggestion guys,last time you were all very helpful,i havent given up on this ,im thinking perhaps do another training course but ask them only for the practical side hmmm.I was hoping then to get an entree level ndt job.
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Nigel Armstrong
Engineering, - Specialist services
United Kingdom, Joined Oct 2000, 1096

Nigel Armstrong

Engineering, - Specialist services
United Kingdom,
Joined Oct 2000
1096
06:07 Sep-16-2008
Re: where to begin in ut
Ian

I go with your thinking Ian, hands-on supervised practice on flawed specimens. You dont give any details but if the training centre you attended is worthwhile they will do their damn best to give you feedback on how and why you failed and to ensure that any furthter days practical testing concentrate on countering the previous failure, improving your technique and building your confidence.

Ian, we ALL fail at some time or other, so I am glad to read you have a positive attitude.

So far it will have cost you plenty - straight to Level 2 should be 120 hours according to EN 473. You have passed all theory parts of the test and narrowly failed the practical. Now you are free from meeting any course syllabus training requirements and you can train as you wish. Of course it will cost you extra money, but the value from each days hands-on supervised training on flawed test pieces will be far greater. Presumably you were in group training previously. Now as an individual you will be able to take more personal instruction from the instructor - speak to the training supervisor/manager before you book any extra days and let them know your situation - they should respond appropriately. You'll pass next time and then I wish you good luck in finding employment.

Just one addition - dont rest on your laurels once you have passed. Study around the subject - other NDT mehtods - conventional and advanced, maths, materials processing, welding, metallurgy, failure analysis.


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: a while back i took a ut level 2 course and although passed the theory with excellent marks just narrowly failed the practical side.In a catch 22 scenario i think i needed more experience to get a total grasp on the practical side but hard to gain experience without the certification!! Any suggestion guys,last time you were all very helpful,i havent given up on this ,im thinking perhaps do another training course but ask them only for the practical side hmmm.I was hoping then to get an entree level ndt job.
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ian pearson
ian pearson
08:57 Sep-16-2008
Re: where to begin in ut
guys thankyou so much yr replies are very informative ,I am based in the uk ,Justin yr package sounds fantastic although i dont think they offer anything like that in uk,would the qualifications be recognised here in the uk? if i had the vacation time it sounds like a dream package i havent checked out prices yet,Nigel also thanks for yr reply and yes im not giving up as i realise that i enjoy this subject and i will just have to put the investment of time and money and be positive.thankyou also Navita wow alot of options.

I really appreciate it Ian


    
 
 
Derek
Derek
00:25 Sep-23-2008
Re: where to begin in ut
Try Shawcor, they are always looking for trainees and are worldwide. ----------- Start Original Message -----------
: a while back i took a ut level 2 course and although passed the theory with excellent marks just narrowly failed the practical side.In a catch 22 scenario i think i needed more experience to get a total grasp on the practical side but hard to gain experience without the certification!! Any suggestion guys,last time you were all very helpful,i havent given up on this ,im thinking perhaps do another training course but ask them only for the practical side hmmm.I was hoping then to get an entree level ndt job.
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