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09:42 Jan-06-2009
vennela
NDT women

IS there any career opportunities for women in NDT
I mean do women get employment opportunieties in NDT with the training


 
00:47 Jan-06-2009

John Brunk

Engineering, NDT Level III
Self employed, part-time,
USA,
Joined Oct 1999
158
Re: NDT women ----------- Start Original Message -----------
: IS there any career opportunities for women in NDT
: I mean do women get employment opportunieties in NDT with the training
------------ End Original Message ------------

At the site of my day job two of seven radiographers are women. This is at a manufacturing plant, and over the past 10 years there have been at least three other women who worked as radiographers and one who was an ultrasonic inspector. Those four stayed here until they retired. Two women have worked here in NDT engineering support. I know of three other women in the Kansas City area who are working as magnetic particle and penetrant inspectors in manufacturing plants. I have certainly not seen any evidence of discrimination. There might be difficulties with living conditions in some field and temporary positions.


 
01:32 Jan-07-2009
Sotirios Vahaviolos, CEO of MISTRAS Group, Inc.
Re: NDT women ----------- Start Original Message -----------
: IS there any career opportunities for women in NDT
: I mean do women get employment opportunieties in NDT with the training
------------ End Original Message ------------

We will be delighted to accept applications as we have an open door policy to ALL. We also are very proud to have NDT female Technicians and Managers on our staff.



 
01:06 Jan-07-2009

Nigel Armstrong

Engineering, - Specialist services
United Kingdom,
Joined Oct 2000
1094
Re: NDT women Vennela

There are certainly opportunities for ALL in both Engineering and NDT. In the past I have advised women friends to consider such careers but the response has been lukewarm at best.

Recently I read that the IT industry has suffered a major desertion by women. Likewise engineering in general and NDT in specific has never been viewed as women-friendly - apart from in times of strife!

I would value well-trained and dedicated female colleagues.

----------- Start Original Message -----------
: : IS there any career opportunities for women in NDT
: : I mean do women get employment opportunieties in NDT with the training
: At the site of my day job two of seven radiographers are women. This is at a manufacturing plant, and over the past 10 years there have been at least three other women who worked as radiographers and one who was an ultrasonic inspector. Those four stayed here until they retired. Two women have worked here in NDT engineering support. I know of three other women in the Kansas City area who are working as magnetic particle and penetrant inspectors in manufacturing plants. I have certainly not seen any evidence of discrimination. There might be difficulties with living conditions in some field and temporary positions.
------------ End Original Message ------------




 
03:13 Jan-07-2009

fanta diop

Engineering, Industry Manager
BUREAU VERITAS DAKAR,
Senegal,
Joined Feb 2006
3
Re: NDT women Dear Vannela,
I am a woman, I am level 2 in UT, MPI and LPI and I work in NDT since six years. I was Quality Control Manager in a shipyard in Dakar-senegal. Now I am NDT Manager in Bureau Veritas Dakar, so we are able to work in NDT. I am 29 years old.

----------- Start Original Message -----------
: IS there any career opportunities for women in NDT
: I mean do women get employment opportunieties in NDT with the training
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04:22 Jan-07-2009

S.V.Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
782
Re: NDT women I posted a response but apparently it got lost somewhere in cyberspace.

I would say there is no problem for women in NDT. I would however caution a pregnant lady from RT exposure related activities. Film developing and interpretations are fine.

In general, follow all the safety standards and you would be fine.

Best wishes.

Swamy
NDT Guru

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: IS there any career opportunities for women in NDT
: I mean do women get employment opportunieties in NDT with the training
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07:48 Jan-07-2009

Michel Couture

NDT Inspector,
consultant,
Canada,
Joined Sep 2006
806
Re: NDT women All and all, it's the same old thing = Prejudice. I guess it's a little more prevalent against women, because of the label we have put on women and more so in certain cultures. Personally, I've worked with many women and my attitude towards them is that they be like one of the boys. I don't mean by this wiping your nose on your sleeve and spitting, but to do the same work as we do. I don't know about other countries, but in Canada they have equal pay, so they should do equal work. On the other hand, I've also worked with some guys who were just starting in the trade yet they consider thickness reading to be beneat them. Myself, I don't care if they are man or woman as long as the job get done and they carry their load.

Cheerio's
Michel

----------- Start Original Message -----------
: I posted a response but apparently it got lost somewhere in cyberspace.
: I would say there is no problem for women in NDT. I would however caution a pregnant lady from RT exposure related activities. Film developing and interpretations are fine.
: In general, follow all the safety standards and you would be fine.
: Best wishes.
: Swamy
: NDT Guru
: ---------- Start Original Message -----------
: : IS there any career opportunities for women in NDT
: : I mean do women get employment opportunieties in NDT with the training
------------ End Original Message ------------




 
01:21 Jan-08-2009

Dent McIntyre

Consultant, NDE Manager NDELevel III/3
NDT Consultant,
Canada,
Joined Nov 1998
244
Re: NDT women Another great topic.
Aside from the more obvious differences in gender traits, the female side has some distinct advantages over us guys in some of the NDT tasks that we perform.

I spent several years managing QA and NDT in China for a large company. In the radiography group, almost all of the film readers were female. I soon learned that close attention to fine detail made them better suited for this task than most guys.

Better hand-eye co-ordination also gives females the edge in manual UT scanning for example.
In my long (42 years) NDT career I personally have hired, managed and know many female technicians. Just like guys, they have strengths and weaknesses. But on the whole, there is no reason why they cannot make a significant contribution to our industry.

----------- Start Original Message -----------
: All and all, it's the same old thing = Prejudice. I guess it's a little more prevalent against women, because of the label we have put on women and more so in certain cultures. Personally, I've worked with many women and my attitude towards them is that they be like one of the boys. I don't mean by this wiping your nose on your sleeve and spitting, but to do the same work as we do. I don't know about other countries, but in Canada they have equal pay, so they should do equal work. On the other hand, I've also worked with some guys who were just starting in the trade yet they consider thickness reading to be beneat them. Myself, I don't care if they are man or woman as long as the job get done and they carry their load.
: Cheerio's
: Michel
: : I posted a response but apparently it got lost somewhere in cyberspace.
: : I would say there is no problem for women in NDT. I would however caution a pregnant lady from RT exposure related activities. Film developing and interpretations are fine.
: : In general, follow all the safety standards and you would be fine.
: : Best wishes.
: : Swamy
: : NDT Guru
: : ---------- Start Original Message -----------
: : : IS there any career opportunities for women in NDT
: : : I mean do women get employment opportunieties in NDT with the training
------------ End Original Message ------------




 
05:31 Jan-08-2009
Sotirios J. Vahaviolos
Re: NDT women ----------- Start Original Message -----------
: Another great topic.
: Aside from the more obvious differences in gender traits, the female side has some distinct advantages over us guys in some of the NDT tasks that we perform.
: I spent several years managing QA and NDT in China for a large company. In the radiography group, almost all of the film readers were female. I soon learned that close attention to fine detail made them better suited for this task than most guys.
: Better hand-eye co-ordination also gives females the edge in manual UT scanning for example.
: In my long (42 years) NDT career I personally have hired, managed and know many female technicians. Just like guys, they have strengths and weaknesses. But on the whole, there is no reason why they cannot make a significant contribution to our industry.
: : All and all, it's the same old thing = Prejudice. I guess it's a little more prevalent against women, because of the label we have put on women and more so in certain cultures. Personally, I've worked with many women and my attitude towards them is that they be like one of the boys. I don't mean by this wiping your nose on your sleeve and spitting, but to do the same work as we do. I don't know about other countries, but in Canada they have equal pay, so they should do equal work. On the other hand, I've also worked with some guys who were just starting in the trade yet they consider thickness reading to be beneat them. Myself, I don't care if they are man or woman as long as the job get done and they carry their load.
: : Cheerio's
: : Michel
: : : I posted a response but apparently it got lost somewhere in cyberspace.
: : : I would say there is no problem for women in NDT. I would however caution a pregnant lady from RT exposure related activities. Film developing and interpretations are fine.
: : : In general, follow all the safety standards and you would be fine.
: : : Best wishes.
: : : Swamy
: : : NDT Guru
: : : ---------- Start Original Message -----------
: : : : IS there any career opportunities for women in NDT
: : : : I mean do women get employment opportunieties in NDT with the training
------------ End Original Message ------------

We are having an interesting discussion. All radiation issues relate to "safety first" that is the trademark of MISTRAS Services and it's predecessor CONAM Inspection. Safety does not distinguish on gender, but it is an absolute necessaty in NDT! We are living in a world that must be free of prejudisisms and in my opinion NDT leads in this area. With the fear of ommission I can mention to you that Dr. Vicky Panhuise followed me as President of ASNT and we now have a woman President of ASNT. For years the ICNDT had several strong members who were also woman. May I also mention Prof. Vjera Krstelj from Croatia who is also a founding member of NDT ACADEMIA or our extremely competent General Secretary Dr. Irena Pushkina that we can not function without her. Personally I am very proud of my daughter Athanasia Tia who is the Managing Director of ENVIROCOUSICS ABEE, a very succesfull NDT Services and Research Company in Greece, of Dr. Didem Ozevin who is a Pricipal Researcher in our company and just obtained a prestigious NIST $1MM Research contract leading a lot of men and some of them Professors, or the head of our IR research Dr. Obdulia Ley. Keep in-mind that the VP Of Marketing and sales of OLYMPUS is a very competent NDT woman, so is the Head of GE-NDT sales in Europe or two of my most favored Acoustic Emission Professors are woman from UK and Belgium and so on......I have the fear I will forget some including the General Secretary of the Chinese Society of NDT etc. My apologies if I forgot someone and can only say as a father of 3-daughters and 2-grand daughters I will do my outmost to protect any employee from stupid old style prejudicisms morally and most importantly legally,and I know as a leader in ASNT and ICNDT worldwide so will do all my colleagues. So I would like to see more "new blood" in NDT since the NDT Technicians shortage continues worldwide, as we assessed it in the last ICNDT meeting. Men and women need to apply and be trained ASAP. I am sure that the NDT companies I know worldwide do not pay attention to gender and if one does we all would like to know since they will become the Pariahs of our industry. Our good friend Rolf has also given us this great page to report any stupid actions and illegalities from individuals that have no morals or understand they now live in the 21st Century. Sorry for the long diatribe, but needs to be said! All the best for 2009 to all and I am sure that this financial tsunami worldwide will pass. Thank God that we are in NDT that still needs Researchers,Engineers,and practioners/technicians. Sotirios


 
05:36 Jan-08-2009

Amy

NDT Inspector, - -
USA,
Joined Jan 2009
87
Re: NDT women ---I have been in the NDT business since the 90's and have always been treated well and fairly. The field is mainly male dominated, but if you work and use your brain not your other assets you will be treated equally. That goes in any industry. I've found over the years that we've become a "sensitive" society to the adaptation of "diversity" in the field. I think I have more trouble adapting to the "sensitivity" than some of my male coworkers. I have found there to be great opportunities in the NDT field for women.
-------- Start Original Message -----------
: Another great topic.
: Aside from the more obvious differences in gender traits, the female side has some distinct advantages over us guys in some of the NDT tasks that we perform.
: I spent several years managing QA and NDT in China for a large company. In the radiography group, almost all of the film readers were female. I soon learned that close attention to fine detail made them better suited for this task than most guys.
: Betterhand-eye co-ordination also gives females the edge in manual UT scanning for example.
: In my long (42 years) NDT career I personally have hired, managed and know many female technicians. Just like guys, they have strengths and weaknesses. But on the whole, there is no reason why they cannot make a significant contribution to our industry.
: : All and all, it's the same old thing = Prejudice. I guess it's a little more prevalent against women, because of the label we have put on women and more so in certain cultures. Personally, I've worked with many women and my attitude towards them is that they be like one of the boys. I don't mean by this wiping your nose on your sleeve and spitting, but to do the same work as we do. I don't know about other countries, but in Canada they have equal pay, so they should do equal work. On the other hand, I've also worked with some guys who were just starting in the trade yet they consider thickness reading to be beneat them. Myself, I don't care if they are manor woman as long as the job get done and they carry their load.
: : Cheerio's
: : Michel
: : : I posted a response but apparently it got lost somewhere in cyberspace.
: : : I would say there is no problem for women in NDT. I would however caution a pregnant lady from RT exposure related activities. Film developing and interpretations are fine.
: : : In general, follow all the safety standards and you would be fine.
: : : Best wishes.
: : : Swamy
: : : NDT Guru
: : : ---------- Start Original Message -----------
: : : : IS there any career opportunities for women in NDT
: : : : I mean do women get employment opportunieties in NDT with the training
------------ End Original Message ------------




 
09:24 Jan-09-2009
Navita Gupta
Re: NDT women I have been in the field of NDT Trainings for the past 14 years and Have found no major gender bias. Initially, there is a hitch at times seeing my gender. But after attending my lecture for 15 to 30 minutes, I can see that visible change in facial expressions. That appreciation on the faces, is an acknowlegment that the trainees have no more apprehensions. The respect I command after that matches any other field.
Navita


----------- Start Original Message -----------
: ---I have been in the NDT business since the 90's and have always been treated well and fairly. The field is mainly male dominated, but if you work and use your brain not your other assets you will be treated equally. That goes in any industry. I've found over the years that we've become a "sensitive" society to the adaptation of "diversity" in the field. I think I have more trouble adapting to the "sensitivity" than some of my male coworkers. I have found there to be great opportunities in the NDT field for women.
: -------- Start Original Message -----------
: : Another great topic.
: : Aside from the more obvious differences in gender traits, the female side has some distinct advantages over us guys in some of the NDT tasks that we perform.
: : I spent several years managing QA and NDT in China for a large company. In the radiography group, almost all of the film readers were female. I soon learned that close attention to fine detail made them better suited for this task than most guys.
: : Better hand-eye co-ordination also gives females the edge in manual UT scanning for example.
: : In my long (42 years) NDT career I personally have hired, managed and know many female technicians. Just like guys, they have strengths and weaknesses. But on the whole, there is no reason why they cannot make a significant contribution to our industry.
: : : All and all, it's the same old thing = Prejudice. I guess it's a little more prevalent against women, because of the label we have put on women and more so in certain cultures. Personally, I've worked with many women and my attitude towards them is that they be like one of the boys. I don't mean by this wiping your nose on your sleeve and spitting, but to do the same work as we do. I don't know about other countries, but in Canada they have equal pay, so they should do equal work. On the other hand, I've also worked with some guys who were just starting in the trade yet they consider thickness reading to be beneat them. Myself, I don't care if they are man or woman as long as the job get done and they carry their load.
: : : Cheerio's
: : : Michel
: : : : I posted a response but apparently it got lost somewhere in cyberspace.
: : : : I would say there is no problem for women in NDT. I would however caution a pregnant lady from RT exposure related activities. Film developing and interpretations are fine.
: : : : In general, follow all the safety standards and you would be fine.
: : : : Best wishes.
: : : : Swamy
: : : : NDT Guru
: : : : ---------- Start Original Message -----------
: : : : : IS there any career opportunities for women in NDT
: : : : : I mean do women get employment opportunieties in NDT with the training
------------ End Original Message ------------




 
07:29 Jan-13-2009
gary whitworth
Re: NDT women In Reply to Sotirios Vahaviolos, CEO of MISTRAS Group, Inc. at 01:32 Jan-07-2009 .

What a load of PC bull you lot have written.
No one seems to mention wether you can do the job or not.
It makes no difference what gender you are as long as you are a good operator then you will get the respect of your fellow colleagues regardless.
I know more than enough male and fremale operators and you got good and bad in both sexes and i think that is the main topic here.
Can you do the job ? Answer yes, who cares then ?
Can you not do the job ? Answer no, then do something else.

 
15:26 Jan-14-2009
TJ
Re: NDT women In Reply to gary whitworth at 07:29 Jan-13-2009 .

Well,

If the people on this forum were posting politically INCORRECT messages then they would seem offensive towards women. Although I share your look on one being able to perform job responsibilities, the issue of prejudice based on gender should not be ignored. That person being passed over because of gender could be a great contributor.

TJ

 
17:04 Jan-14-2009

Nigel Armstrong

Engineering, - Specialist services
United Kingdom,
Joined Oct 2000
1094
Re: NDT women In Reply to TJ at 15:26 Jan-14-2009 .

Well answered tj.

It imust be difficult to measure which factor(s) are mainly responsible for the lack of women following a career in inspection. Is it actual or perceived gender discrimination, or are the vast majority of women simply uninterested in developing what could be a rewarding career and if so for what reasons? I resist whole-heartedly any implication (if that is Gary's intent) that there are few women inspectors because they are incapable of becoming good inspectors.

 
07:27 Jan-15-2009
gary whitworth
Re: NDT women In Reply to Nigel Armstrong at 17:04 Jan-14-2009 .

Nigel

Was that my intent ? Please read my post and it states "it makes no difference what gender".
I am currently on a site wher there are more female engineers and operators and not just confined to NDT.
There is actually more respect given to them because they are of a proven ability to do the job.
I have no problem working alongside anyone that is capable of doing the jon they are in where as i do not like to work alongside people wethre male or female that have no clue about what they are doing.
If you read most posts its all about people saying there should be no discouragement of female operators, wekk give them a job then.

 
11:11 Jan-15-2009

Nigel Armstrong

Engineering, - Specialist services
United Kingdom,
Joined Oct 2000
1094
Re: NDT women In Reply to gary whitworth at 07:27 Jan-15-2009 .

Gary

Gary, please be assured I did read your post. I was unsure about your position because you introduced the issue of designating competence (an opinion on someone's competence often stems from prejudice or taste) - a topic whose study has exercised many brighter brains than mine for a long time. Vennela's post suggested to me that she is wondering if the investment of time and expense for initial training would be justifiable in terms of finding employment and career advancement. I understood her query was about gender prejudice, though such a query could and does apply to both genders. Your position differs from mine in that I have had very few female colleagues and therefore I have seen a significant gender imbalance in the industry which could be perceived as stemming from prejudice.

Vennela. your further comments will be interesting.

 
11:19 Jan-18-2009
Mark
Re: NDT women In Reply to vennela at 09:42 Jan-06-2009 (Opening).

Hello everybody ! Interesting topic ! Huge response from both men and women working in this field of NDT! I have read all the posts related to this topic and almost all the points are covered. For me personally i will be more than happy to see some females working in coveralls by my side. Iam sure they are bound to get special attention which they always love to have. Atleast they will add some glamour to this dry fiield of NDT which I usually call as -NDT - NO DATING TIME !

Cheers!
Mark

 
15:54 Jan-18-2009

Michel Couture

NDT Inspector,
consultant,
Canada,
Joined Sep 2006
806
Re: NDT women In Reply to Mark at 11:19 Jan-18-2009 .

Gee, How funny it is from different part of the world what NDT stands for. When I was in the Air Force, I was told it meant Nothing Doing Today!!! LOL

 
01:20 May-25-2017
bonita
Re: NDT women In Reply to John Brunk at 00:47 Jan-06-2009 .

So what about women who doesn't wear pants, is there any other uniform provide for them?

 
02:18 May-25-2017

S V Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
782
Re: NDT women In Reply to bonita at 01:20 May-25-2017 .

In our organisation, workmen (workwomen also) were provided and were expected to wear uniform. For workmen, pants and shirts were prescribed. For workwomen, saris or chudidars were given. Since saris are loose ended garments, those working near moving machinery were cautioned to ensure that the loose ends are well tucked in to prevent any accident.

For the supervisory and officer / executive cadre, no uniform is prescribed and we were free to wear what we prefer as long as it is decent by our cultural standards. So, lady executives could wear dresses of their choice. We had a physicist, who was working in NDT field (UT, PT, ET and RT) and she had the respect of all of us for her knowledge and good work. Thus, there is no discrimination or any handicap for women in the field as long as they are knowledgeable and are hard working.

 
15:03 May-25-2017

John Brunk

Engineering, NDT Level III
Self employed, part-time,
USA,
Joined Oct 1999
158
Re: NDT women In Reply to bonita at 01:20 May-25-2017 .

The answer to your question must depend upon the location of the job and local customs. I have lived in the Kansas City area for almost 50 years and worked almost entirely in the USA. I have worked with women in NDT (including a couple of managers) so often I don't really think about it as unusual. In manufacturing settings, uniforms are almost never required but company shirts are often available for both men and women. In some factory areas loose clothing, long hair and high heels are not allowed for safety reasons. I have no direct knowledge of a situation where a sari or some other loose garment was an issue. Turbans for men have not been a problem. Beards are OK except in situations where respirators must be worn for safety reasons. For field work I have not seen women wearing anything but trousers, jump suits (coveralls) and medical scrubs. Scrubs are great because of all the pockets. If the dress required by your faith must come before company safety rules, I suggest you look for job in the applications lab of an NDT equipment manufacturer, a large independent test lab where most of the work is done on objects that are brought into the lab, or a manufacturer of product that require in-process NDT at various stages during manufacturing. Any of these can provide an interesting and rewarding career and a more "normal" life than traveling for field work. Good luck!

 
13:21 May-31-2017

Paul Skidmore

USA,
Joined May 2012
28
Re: NDT women In Reply to vennela at 09:42 Jan-06-2009 (Opening).

I have with women and I have reported to women in the NDT field. My oldest girl is in the NDT market as well as my son so we look pass the sex and look at the person.
Respect is eraned not given. I dont care if your a femal or male just do the job the right way.

 
14:57 Dec-06-2017

anjali parte

India,
Joined Dec 2017
1
Re: NDT women In Reply to Navita Gupta at 09:24 Jan-09-2009 .

hi mam.now i am also doing NDT bt in india there are no field work for women i want to go outside in another country please tell me how i go outside country for job Andand what qualification is required please ans me

 


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