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Jan Verkooijen
Director,
Sonovation, Netherlands, Joined Nov 1998, 29

Jan Verkooijen

Director,
Sonovation,
Netherlands,
Joined Nov 1998
29
01:22 May-25-2001
ASNT's SNT-TC-1a

We have a bit of a discussion at the moment on the interpretation
of the SNT-TC-1a. According to the document, people wishing to
become a UT level II operator, should sit a specific examination with
a minimum of 20 questions "addressing the equipment, operating procedures
and NDT techniques that the individual may encounter during specific
assignments..". Our staff work to several codes and standards. Does
this mean they have to sit an exam with 20 questions on each standard
or procedure or is it sufficient to cover different codes and standards
in the questions. By example 5 questions on German standards, 5 on Dutch,
5 on ASME etc? Is there a minimum of questions on the standards at all,
because the 20 questions should also cover the equipment etc?

Talking to some collegues this appears to be an issue for more training
institutes and NDT companies. I would therefore appreciate some advise
on the above.

Thanks,

Jan Verkooijen


    
 
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Fred Raco
Director
CP Industries - Div. of Reunion Industries, Inc., USA, Joined Jan 2001, 6

Fred Raco

Director
CP Industries - Div. of Reunion Industries, Inc.,
USA,
Joined Jan 2001
6
03:39 May-25-2001
Re: ASNT's SNT-TC-1a
Dear Jan Verkooijen,

The specific examination shall consist of a minimum of 20 questions to meet the requirements of SNT-TC-1A. If you or your organization feel that 20 questions is not enough to properly cover the broad range of specifications, equipment, techniques and so on, you may put as many questions as you like on the exam.

Good luck and best regards,

Fred Raco
Director NDT
CP Industries

: We have a bit of a discussion at the moment on the interpretation
: of the SNT-TC-1a. According to the document, people wishing to
: become a UT level II operator, should sit a specific examination with
: a minimum of 20 questions "addressing the equipment, operating procedures
: and NDT techniques that the individual may encounter during specific
: assignments..". Our staff work to several codes and standards. Does
: this mean they have to sit an exam with 20 questions on each standard
: or procedure or is it sufficient to cover different codes and standards
: in the questions. By example 5 questions on German standards, 5 on Dutch,
: 5 on ASME etc? Is there a minimum of questions on the standards at all,
: because the 20 questions should also cover the equipment etc?
.
: Talking to some collegues this appears to be an issue for more training
: institutes and NDT companies. I would therefore appreciate some advise
: on the above.
.
: Thanks,
.
: Jan Verkooijen
.



    
 
 Reply 
 
Jan Verkooijen
Director,
Sonovation, Netherlands, Joined Nov 1998, 29

Jan Verkooijen

Director,
Sonovation,
Netherlands,
Joined Nov 1998
29
09:42 May-28-2001
Re: ASNT's SNT-TC-1a
Dear Fred,

Would an ASME authorised inspector generally accept this, or
would he demand a minimum of for example say 15 questions
dealing with ASME? To my idea it would be up to the company
to detail in their written practice, but is there any jurisdiction
on this?

Best regards,

Jan Verkooijen

: Dear Jan Verkooijen,
.
: The specific examination shall consist of a minimum of 20 questions to meet the requirements of SNT-TC-1A. If you or your organization feel that 20 questions is not enough to properly cover the broad range of specifications, equipment, techniques and so on, you may put as many questions as you like on the exam.
.
: Good luck and best regards,
.
: Fred Raco
: Director NDT
: CP Industries
.
.
.
.
: : We have a bit of a discussion at the moment on the interpretation
: : of the SNT-TC-1a. According to the document, people wishing to
: : become a UT level II operator, should sit a specific examination with
: : a minimum of 20 questions "addressing the equipment, operating procedures
: : and NDT techniques that the individual may encounter during specific
: : assignments..". Our staff work to several codes and standards. Does
: : this mean they have to sit an exam with 20 questions on each standard
: : or procedure or is it sufficient to cover different codes and standards
: : in the questions. By example 5 questions on German standards, 5 on Dutch,
: : 5 on ASME etc? Is there a minimum of questions on the standards at all,
: : because the 20 questions should also cover the equipment etc?
: .
: : Talking to some collegues this appears to be an issue for more training
: : institutes and NDT companies. I would therefore appreciate some advise
: : on the above.
: .
: : Thanks,
: .
: : Jan Verkooijen
: .
.



    
 
 Reply 
 
Fred Raco, Jr.
Director
CP Industries - Div. of Reunion Industries, Inc., USA, Joined Jan 2001, 6

Fred Raco, Jr.

Director
CP Industries - Div. of Reunion Industries, Inc.,
USA,
Joined Jan 2001
6
03:42 May-29-2001
Re: ASNT's SNT-TC-1a
It is hard to tell what your ASME Inspector will do. Ask him what he prefers and attempt to accommodate him. There is no justification noted in TC-1A. However, I have seen other codes that add to the minimum requirements such as MIL-STD-271.

Dear Fred,
.
: Would an ASME authorised inspector generally accept this, or
: would he demand a minimum of for example say 15 questions
: dealing with ASME? To my idea it would be up to the company
: to detail in their written practice, but is there any jurisdiction
: on this?
.
: Best regards,
.
: Jan Verkooijen
.
: : Dear Jan Verkooijen,
: .
: : The specific examination shall consist of a minimum of 20 questions to meet the requirements of SNT-TC-1A. If you or your organization feel that 20 questions is not enough to properly cover the broad range of specifications, equipment, techniques and so on, you may put as many questions as you like on the exam.
: .
: : Good luck and best regards,
: .
: : Fred Raco
: : Director NDT
: : CP Industries
: .
: .
: .
: .
: : : We have a bit of a discussion at the moment on the interpretation
: : : of the SNT-TC-1a. According to the document, people wishing to
: : : become a UT level II operator, should sit a specific examination with
: : : a minimum of 20 questions "addressing the equipment, operating procedures
: : : and NDT techniques that the individual may encounter during specific
: : : assignments..". Our staff work to several codes and standards. Does
: : : this mean they have to sit an exam with 20 questions on each standard
: : : or procedure or is it sufficient to cover different codes and standards
: : : in the questions. By example 5 questions on German standards, 5 on Dutch,
: : : 5 on ASME etc? Is there a minimum of questions on the standards at all,
: : : because the 20 questions should also cover the equipment etc?
: : .
: : : Talking to some collegues this appears to be an issue for more training
: : : institutes and NDT companies. I would therefore appreciate some advise
: : : on the above.
: : .
: : : Thanks,
: : .
: : : Jan Verkooijen
: : .
: .
.



    
 
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Ken
Senior Level III
USA, Joined Jan 2000, 14

Ken

Senior Level III
USA,
Joined Jan 2000
14
05:54 Jun-13-2001
Re: ASNT's SNT-TC-1a
Though an ASME Inspector has a wide range of discrestion when it comes to what he will and will not accept, SNT-TC-1a is a guideline which has no mandatory requirements. It is to be used only in the development of a company "Written Practice" which in turn becomes the mandatory document. As long as the item is addressed in your "Written Practice" and is based on the guidelines of TC-1a, it should be acceptable but as you know Rule #1 "The customer (or in this case the Inspector) is always right." Good luck!

: We have a bit of a discussion at the moment on the interpretation
: of the SNT-TC-1a. According to the document, people wishing to
: become a UT level II operator, should sit a specific examination with
: a minimum of 20 questions "addressing the equipment, operating procedures
: and NDT techniques that the individual may encounter during specific
: assignments..". Our staff work to several codes and standards. Does
: this mean they have to sit an exam with 20 questions on each standard
: or procedure or is it sufficient to cover different codes and standards
: in the questions. By example 5 questions on German standards, 5 on Dutch,
: 5 on ASME etc? Is there a minimum of questions on the standards at all,
: because the 20 questions should also cover the equipment etc?
.
: Talking to some collegues this appears to be an issue for more training
: institutes and NDT companies. I would therefore appreciate some advise
: on the above.
.
: Thanks,
.
: Jan Verkooijen
.



    
 
 Reply 
 

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