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richeng
NDT Inspector,
P&W SHANGHAI ENGINE CENTER, China, Joined Mar 2009, 6

richeng

NDT Inspector,
P&W SHANGHAI ENGINE CENTER,
China,
Joined Mar 2009
6
08:03 Mar-18-2009
asnt level 3

hi everyone,

Is it hard to pass asnt level 3?
i wanna take the course,but im not sure.
My plan is to get MT,PT this year.

thanks!

    
 
 
William Blum
Consultant, Training, Level III Services
NDT Consulting Group Inc., USA, Joined Nov 2000, 89

William Blum

Consultant, Training, Level III Services
NDT Consulting Group Inc.,
USA,
Joined Nov 2000
89
12:56 Mar-18-2009
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to richeng at 08:03 Mar-18-2009 (Opening).

Some people find the exams difficult while others don't. What I have gathered from people who have taken the exam over the years is that candidates pass the method exam but don't pass the basic and have to study further and retest. I recommend you do some study and challenge the exam. If you pass, great, if not you learn what you don't know.

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Nigel Armstrong
Engineering, - Specialist services
United Kingdom, Joined Oct 2000, 1094

Nigel Armstrong

Engineering, - Specialist services
United Kingdom,
Joined Oct 2000
1094
23:30 Mar-18-2009
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to richeng at 08:03 Mar-18-2009 (Opening).

Hello richeng (an apsiration?)

i found PT III to be a lot more difficult than MT III. Ohter candidates agreed at the time. It needs good command of English and a knowledge of de Beers Law!!!

Good luck in your ambition

    
 
 
S.V.Swamy
Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex , India, Joined Feb 2001, 785

S.V.Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
785
03:18 Mar-19-2009
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to richeng at 08:03 Mar-18-2009 (Opening).

Dear Richeng,

It depends on your existing NDT knowledge (theory) and hands on experience. I appeared for Basic, Radiographic Testing and Ultrasonic Testing when I was 52 years old and after working in the field for nearly 3 decades. I was sponsored because I was the Manager of a team that was doing a lot of NDT and while some of them had Level II (I did not), there was no in house Level III. I passed the exams in my first attempt but other colleagues who attempted later (we have several divisions and the organization was trying to build up a strong group of Certified personnel) did not fare that well. You need a strong theoretical knowledge and a good command over English language since your understanding of the question depends on that.

As pointed by Nigel, PT is much tougher as compared to MT. In any case, prepare well and feel free to ask questions on this forum. We wish you the best.

Swamy
The NDT Guru
India

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richeng
NDT Inspector,
P&W SHANGHAI ENGINE CENTER, China, Joined Mar 2009, 6

richeng

NDT Inspector,
P&W SHANGHAI ENGINE CENTER,
China,
Joined Mar 2009
6
09:07 Mar-19-2009
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S.V.Swamy at 03:18 Mar-19-2009 .

DEAR SIR,

I'M A NEW GUY IN NDT FIELD.AND NOW I WORK IN AN AERO ENGINE MAINTENANCE FOR ABOUT 4 YEARS.THE MOST WORK I DO IS PT AND MT,AND ALSO I DID AUTO UT C-SCAN FOR V2500 AERO ENGINE MANY TIMES.

SO FAR,I HOLD THREE CAAC CERTIFICATIONS(PT,MT,UT),BUT ALL IS LEVEL II.I GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE WHERE I MAJORED NDT.BUT THE POINT NOW IS I AM NOT SURE IF I CAN PASS THE ASNT EXAM WHICH MAY BE VERY DIFFERENT TO CHINESE SYSTEM.WHAT'S MORE,MY ENGLISH IS POOR.I HAVE NO CONFIDENCE TO TAKE ENGLISH EXAM.THE AGENT BODY TOLD ME THE TRAINING IS CHINESE,BUT THE EXAM IS ENGLISH----WHICH REALLY CONFUSED ME.

BUT I HAD MADE A DECISION TO ATTAIN THIS GAME WHATEVER HAPPENS.

GOD BLESS ME!

THANKS!

    
 
 
S.V.Swamy
Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex , India, Joined Feb 2001, 785

S.V.Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
785
15:45 Mar-19-2009
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to richeng at 09:07 Mar-19-2009 .

Dear Richeng,

Your english is not bad. And with your good background in NDT, you should not find it too difficult. There are ASNT Practice questions and other NDT practice questions available in the net (look at www.ndt.net and www.nde-ed.org and may be some more sites). You are welcome to ask your doubts here. Go with confidence. Even if you don't get through in one attempt, you can take repeat tests later.

Blessings (as your elder) and best wishes as a fellow NDT practitioner.

Swamy
NDT Guru
India

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Joe Buckley
Consultant, ASNT L-III, Honorary Secretary of BINDT
Level X NDT, BINDT, United Kingdom, Joined Oct 1999, 515

Joe Buckley

Consultant, ASNT L-III, Honorary Secretary of BINDT
Level X NDT, BINDT,
United Kingdom,
Joined Oct 1999
515
18:15 Mar-19-2009
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S.V.Swamy at 15:45 Mar-19-2009 .

If you are conteplating the Level III exams the first step should be to buy the Study guides from ASNT, basic and the methods you are interested in. This will give you a good idea what the level is.

I didn't have too many problems with the exams (I have UT and ET) but one word of advice, especially for non English speakers is take the time read the question very carefully. When I did the exams (14 and 9 years ago) they tended to have a lot of questions where the sense of a familiar question was changed around by adding some negatives. - Very easy to misread. Its all multiple choice no no marks for understanding but getting the wrong answer. It may have changed but I doubt it.

Good luck

Joe

    
 
 
William Blum
Consultant, Training, Level III Services
NDT Consulting Group Inc., USA, Joined Nov 2000, 89

William Blum

Consultant, Training, Level III Services
NDT Consulting Group Inc.,
USA,
Joined Nov 2000
89
18:28 Mar-19-2009
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Joe Buckley at 18:15 Mar-19-2009 .

Still all multiple choice, so they are either right or they are wrong. I last took exams in June and took them on the computer. When finished, you push the "I'm done" (or something close to that) button and within a matter of seconds you know your results. Very exciting wondering whether to push the button or not! I found the computerized questions to be not as well written as the questions on paper. Perhaps they haven't "tested" the questions enough yet.

    
 
 
Amy
NDT Inspector, - -
USA, Joined Jan 2009, 87

Amy

NDT Inspector, - -
USA,
Joined Jan 2009
87
18:47 Mar-19-2009
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to William Blum at 18:28 Mar-19-2009 .

William,
I don't think that it was the computer. I was highly frustrated with the way the questions were written in the writtem exam. Depending on your interpretation of the wording, different multiple choice answers were right. It was as if the almost plan for the other interpretation and you better guess right. I took the refresher course and found that even some of the books sample questons they handed out were not keyed right on the answer key they gave.

As Joe pointed out, for Richeng the best way to go is to get the english version of the study guides and compare them to the chinese translation. I also found the PT was the hardest (and most ridiculous), but I guess there are only so many questions you can ask about wax on-wax off...........

Good luck!!!!

    
 
 
Michel Couture
NDT Inspector,
consultant, Canada, Joined Sep 2006, 819

Michel Couture

NDT Inspector,
consultant,
Canada,
Joined Sep 2006
819
23:02 Mar-19-2009
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Amy at 18:47 Mar-19-2009 .

I've never taken the ASNT exams, but from what you guys are saying, they are similar to our CGSB exam (Canadian). When I was involved in teaching, I've always stressed to my student to not memorised the questions simply for what you guys have mentionned. But I think, that you should do sample exams and after review the ones you got wrong and understand the theory behind it. That way, no matter how they twist things around, you should get it right. As long as you read the question!!!!

Good Luck Richeng

    
 
 
S.V.Swamy
Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex , India, Joined Feb 2001, 785

S.V.Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
785
02:03 Mar-21-2009
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Michel Couture at 23:02 Mar-19-2009 .

Dear Michel,

Yes, but for those whose English language skills are not above average, the nuances in the wording can be frustrating and since the time available is not much, stress can start building up and that would worsent the situation! I remember clearly when I took the exams in Dec. 2000, I was forced to take 2 tablets of Paracetamol with several cups of tea and coffee in the three days of exam! I could finish Basic in 3 hours, I could finish UT with a few minutes to spare (exam time is 4 hours) and for RT, I had to guess the answers for the last few questions (135 questions to be answered in 4 hours).

I have seen some of the model questions from CGSB and am of course very much familiar with the ISNT question papers for different levels of certification. They don't have as much twist as the ASNT papers.

Having said that, I would like to reassure richeng that all questions are not twisted and most of them are straightforward. So, go ahead and take the Exams. Good luck.

Swamy

    
 
 
Michel Couture
NDT Inspector,
consultant, Canada, Joined Sep 2006, 819

Michel Couture

NDT Inspector,
consultant,
Canada,
Joined Sep 2006
819
07:17 Mar-21-2009
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S.V.Swamy at 02:03 Mar-21-2009 .

Dear Swamy,

I know how you feel. Trust me, english is not my first language either. Although I've been living in an english environment for many years, I still get caught in situation were I understand the total opposite of what it is meant. Like Amy said previously, sometimes you also have questions where all the answer are somewhat right and you have to pick the most right. Well, your right and their right may not be the same right!!!

    
 
 
Kunnath Ramdas
Kunnath Ramdas
05:11 Nov-17-2009
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S.V.Swamy at 03:18 Mar-19-2009 .

Dear sir,
Please let me know the percentage of marks required to pass a level 3 examination(Basic and Method)
Regards
Kunnath Ramdas

    
 
 
Pratchaya Kittisakkul
Pratchaya Kittisakkul
09:07 Nov-17-2009
Re: Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to richeng at 09:07 Mar-19-2009 .

I remember the first time when I took ASNT exam.It was very hard time for me though I had spent more time for exam preparation.And nothing I remembered about the exam.
If you are not sure that you might not pass the exam,I suggest that you should focus on the Basic Exam first.Because the test result can be kept for 5 years,that mean you can do the other Methods Exam within 5 years meanwhile Method can be kept only 1 year.If you pass the Basic,Method is not hard as you go.
To pass the exam,you must get 70% for each exam,more you good less you fail.How ever,you must prepare yourself for exam at least 100% but don't expect all you get 100%.Remember,the more you prepare,the more chance you can pass. :-)

    
 
 
S.V.Swamy
Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex , India, Joined Feb 2001, 785

S.V.Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
785
08:36 Nov-20-2009
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Kunnath Ramdas at 05:11 Nov-17-2009 .

Dear Ramdas,

Sai Ram. ASNT does not mention the percentage of marks needed but the percentage is about 80% (not 70% as mentioned by Pratchaya Kittisakkul, unless they have diluted their standards). Actually, it is not clear whether they are talking of 80 percent marks or 80 percentile score. These two are different! I am talking of course with my experience of December 2000. I am not up-to-date with ASNT exams now. But if you prepare well and if your fundamentals are sound, you should not have any problem.

Feel free to ask any specific doubts and if I can help you, I will.

Best wishes.

Swamy

    
 
 
Pratchaya Kittisakkul
Pratchaya Kittisakkul
13:50 Nov-20-2009
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S.V.Swamy at 08:36 Nov-20-2009 .

Dear Swamy,
Thanks for clear my mistake.I really get wrong informations,may be come from confusing with the provision of SNT-TC-1A or CP-189 for grading,define that candidates for all levels must get at least 70% each exams and 80%for all composite score.(Except CP-189 that credit for ASNT NDT Level III or ACCP Level III certificate holders and their experience may waive some examinations) However,ASNT do not tell him/her about the score he/she got,they tell him/her only he/she pass/failed the exam(If you failed the exam,they will tell you about the error cause you failed).

    
 
 
Kunnath Ramdas
Kunnath Ramdas
04:17 Nov-21-2009
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S.V.Swamy at 08:36 Nov-20-2009 .

Dear sir,
Is it benificial if i attend the refreshment course prior to level 3 examination?
Kindly advice me

    
 
 
Nigel Armstrong
Engineering, - Specialist services
United Kingdom, Joined Oct 2000, 1094

Nigel Armstrong

Engineering, - Specialist services
United Kingdom,
Joined Oct 2000
1094
15:31 Nov-21-2009
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Kunnath Ramdas at 04:17 Nov-21-2009 .

Hi Ramdas

Only you can answer this question pertaining to your own needs - you may fly through the exams "under your own steam" or you may fail after attending a refresher course - both happen.

You have to balance cost versus benefit for the refresher course, which also takes into account how confident you are, how failure (if an option) may affect your career. If time and money were no object I would ALWAYS attend a full refresher course. However I cannot afford the luxury of 3 days minimum and $775 fee per RT/UT course plus lost working hours and pay, travel and hotels. Though you can negotiate with your most convenient and trusted local training school for a course content and duration tailored to your exact needs - I have done this before and passed.

Throughout the course of my career I have tried for continuous revision and gaining new knowledge, I have invested in good books and accumulated sufficent literature for revision and of course there are on-line resources such as this excellent forum to answer those tricky questions which notes do not cover.

I hope you choose what is most appropriate for your successful negotiation of the exams and of course I wish you what may play a part - good luck!

    
 
 
Ramdas
Ramdas
07:06 Nov-25-2009
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Nigel Armstrong at 15:31 Nov-21-2009 .

Dear sir,
ASNT Q&A Books are helpful to pass a level3
Thanks

    
 
 
Paul Skidmore
NDT Inspector
USA, Joined Dec 2008, 2

Paul Skidmore

NDT Inspector
USA,
Joined Dec 2008
2
13:38 Nov-25-2009
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to richeng at 08:03 Mar-18-2009 (Opening).

I just took the ASNT III, but i did not make a passing score, but I will do it again after I study more I would do the Basic first so you can work on the Methods at a later date

    
 
 
Rafid Omar López
Rafid Omar López
01:05 Nov-27-2009
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Paul Skidmore at 13:38 Nov-25-2009 .

I am Mexican and i present the level III examination in PT. I pass de basci examination and fail the method examination.

I thing that the more easy examination was the method examination, but the exam is very hard, but i pass the basic examination and the next year, i go to present again the PT method examination.

I buy and study the level III guide for basic and method examination. If somebody has information in electronic form (may be PDF) of PT and can send me the information, i would appreciate a lot.

My english is poor too.

Best regards.

    
 
 
adex
adex
09:50 Dec-02-2009
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Nigel Armstrong at 23:30 Mar-18-2009 .

hi nigel,

i'm ndt inspector and preparing for PT level III exam for next year.
when you mentioned about beers law. i'm surprised coz i never think about it.
is there any law or physic of PT that are seldom we heard about??

tq.

    
 
 
Nigel Armstrong
Engineering, - Specialist services
United Kingdom, Joined Oct 2000, 1094

Nigel Armstrong

Engineering, - Specialist services
United Kingdom,
Joined Oct 2000
1094
12:29 Dec-04-2009
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to adex at 09:50 Dec-02-2009 .

Hello Adex

Beers law is so arcane that most people who have sat ASNT PT Level III method never forget the name, though I am certain that 99% (including me) will have to google it to know what it relates to! I certainly do NOT recall any other little-known laws of physics in the PT Level III exam, but then please dont rely on my memory as a guide to what you need to know to pass the exam!

However, in relation to Beers Law, you are now better prepared for any appropriate exam questions than I was when I first sat my PT Level III (and I have a 10 year recest exam to sit soon!) as I had not heard of Beers Law at all prior to the exam.

I agree with Amy's And Rafid's posts that PT Level III is hilarious as its ratio of obscure and arcane questions to process-useful PT information is, in my opinion, the highest for the 4 methods which I sat - RT, UT, MT and PT. I find my view to be corroborated in general by peers and colleagues. The exam is certainly not a test of a technician's skill as a PT inspector ar his/her potential as for controlling the PT function - but then what is apart from years of experience.

Dont be perturbed by this Adex - after all the USA and its institutions such as ASNT, have historically not been swayed by the opinion of the rest of the world. Witness the popularity of the Sinatra standard "My way". So no matter where you come from, its the same for all of us and many pass!

Wishing you calm before the exam

Nigel

    
 
 
adex
adex
02:50 Dec-05-2009
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Nigel Armstrong at 12:29 Dec-04-2009 .

hi nigel,

thank you for your advice, its very much appreciates.
and to all of you which help me to get some experience about the exam.
i hope i can get some more information on how to preprare before the exam coz
sometimes i feel when i know 1 thing about PT there's 1001 thing outhere that i dont know...hahahaha..

for now, i'm reading the Liquid Penetrant Testing book from ASNT.
I know its not the only thing that should study.there's much more.

Please help me.tq.

    
 
 
Michel Couture
NDT Inspector,
consultant, Canada, Joined Sep 2006, 819

Michel Couture

NDT Inspector,
consultant,
Canada,
Joined Sep 2006
819
17:32 Dec-05-2009
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to adex at 02:50 Dec-05-2009 .

Hi Nigel,

I don't why I didn't pick it up before, but in your last entry, you mentionned Beer's Law. I have to admit my ignorance about that law, so I looked it up and I still fail to see how it pertains to PT or MT for this matter.

Looking it up in Wikipedia, this is what I got: "The law states that there is a logarithmic dependence between the transmission (or transmissivity), T, of light through a substance and the product of the absorption coefficient of the substance, α, and the distance the light travels through the material (i.e. the path length), ℓ. The absorption coefficient can, in turn, be written as a product of either a molar absorptivity of the absorber, ε, and the concentration c of absorbing species in the material, or an absorption cross section, σ, and the (number) density N of absorbers."

I think I understand the law based on the drawing that accompany the explanation on Wikipedia. In a nutshell, you don't have full transmission of light through a liquid or gas because of depth (thickness) and limpidity and so on.

But how does it apply to PT or MT, since the light is not going through, but is being reflected by the fluorescence of the penetrant or the MT bath?

    
 
 
Nigel Armstrong
Engineering, - Specialist services
United Kingdom, Joined Oct 2000, 1094

Nigel Armstrong

Engineering, - Specialist services
United Kingdom,
Joined Oct 2000
1094
14:39 Dec-07-2009
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Michel Couture at 17:32 Dec-05-2009 .

Hello Michel

From ndt-ed.org:

"The dimensional magnitudes of typical crack defects correspond to the dimensional thresholds of fluorescence response which are characteristic of the available penetrant. Alternately stated, the degree of fluorescence response, under a given intensity of ultraviolet radiation, is dependent on the absorption of ultraviolet radiation, which in turn depends on dye concentration and film thickness. Therefore, the ability of a penetrant to yield an indication depends primarily on its ability to fluoresce as a very thin film. The performance of penetrants based on the physical constraints of the dyes can be predicted using Beer's Law equation. This law states that the absorption of light by a solution changes exponentially with the concentration of the solution. This equation does not hold true when very thin layers are involved but works well to establish general relationships between variables.

I = Io x e-lCt


Where:

I = Transmitted light intensity
Io = Incident light intensity
e = Base of natural log (2.71828)
l = Absorption coefficient per unit of concentration
C = Dye concentration
t = Thickness of the absorbing layer trolled (sic) to a certain degree by the concentration of the fluorescent tracer dye in the penetrant.

This equation states that the intensity of the transmitted energy is directly proportional to the intensity of the incident light and varies exponentially with the thickness of the penetrant layer and its dye concentration. Therefore, when the dye concentration is increased, the brightness of the thin layer of penetrant generally increases. However, the dye concentration can only be increased so much before it starts to have a negative effect on brightness."

I have no idea what is meant by "trolled" and I am struggling to nail down the relation to practical NDT. Still, a question on it may arise in the PT Level III exam!

Hope this helps

Nigel

    
 
 
S.V.Swamy
Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex , India, Joined Feb 2001, 785

S.V.Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
785
15:44 Dec-07-2009
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Nigel Armstrong at 14:39 Dec-07-2009 .

Dear Nigel,

Thanks for a very useful post. It explains many things about the detectability of discontinuities and is thus very important. I knew the individual factors but was not aware of the specific Law.

Regards

Swamy

    
 
 
Michel Couture
NDT Inspector,
consultant, Canada, Joined Sep 2006, 819

Michel Couture

NDT Inspector,
consultant,
Canada,
Joined Sep 2006
819
17:24 Dec-07-2009
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S.V.Swamy at 15:44 Dec-07-2009 .

Nigel,

Thank you very much for the explaination. You are a scholar and a gentleman. Because of people like you, I become a better technician every day. This site and the people that come to share information is truly the Brotherhood of NDT.

Cheerio's

Michel

    
 
 
Haseeb
Haseeb
14:54 Dec-08-2009
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to richeng at 08:03 Mar-18-2009 (Opening).

if you want to pass level3 exam, either you have to study and undertand the course material or you have to get help from any of loevel 3 near by you, they can give you guidelines and how they will ask the questions like that, afterall its all about confidence
"fortune favors the brave"

just try, you will get

    
 
 
vinayak gadkari
vinayak gadkari
04:16 Dec-18-2009
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Haseeb at 14:54 Dec-08-2009 .

To All,

I'm Preparing for Level III PT & MT.After reading a lot of informatory posts, i feel more confident.I am planing to take basic ,pt and mt at AECs is it a good idea of taking all of the three in one day in intervals of 30 mins? The thing is i do not have lot of holidays, and i can't affort to stay in hotel/motel.

    
 
 
Nigel Armstrong
Engineering, - Specialist services
United Kingdom, Joined Oct 2000, 1094

Nigel Armstrong

Engineering, - Specialist services
United Kingdom,
Joined Oct 2000
1094
08:51 Dec-19-2009
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to vinayak gadkari at 04:16 Dec-18-2009 .

NO!!!!

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adex
adex
15:11 Dec-21-2009
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to vinayak gadkari at 04:16 Dec-18-2009 .

hi,

me also did not agree with your decision..
either than you take three paper and 'MAYBE' fail..
or you save some more money for your motel...its maybe cannot promise anything but the chances to pass is more high.

    
 
 
kashif
kashif
15:31 Jan-07-2010
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to richeng at 08:03 Mar-18-2009 (Opening).

hello,

please any one can give me some material for preparation for ASNT basic exam

    
 
 
S.V.Swamy
Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex , India, Joined Feb 2001, 785

S.V.Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
785
03:52 Jan-08-2010
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to kashif at 15:31 Jan-07-2010 .

Dear Kashif,

Where are you located? Write to me off the board if needed.

Best wishes.

Swamy

    
 
 
tj
tj
02:49 Jan-13-2010
Re: Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to richeng at 09:07 Mar-19-2009 .

When I sat for my ASNT Basic it was me and an asian guy left at the end of the session. I finished and took my test up to the proctor. I saw that the asian fellow had been using a English-Chinese dictionary the whole time. It made me feel silly about some of the thoughts I had about the test. This guy was dealing with not only NDT but language/intention conversion problems.

TJ

    
 
 
I Roberts
I Roberts
13:23 Jan-20-2010
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S.V.Swamy at 03:52 Jan-08-2010 .

Mr S.V. Swarmy,
Goodday,
I am happy to have been able to have some issues bothering addressed here.My name is roberts and i am a Nigerian working in Nigeria,I had my level II about 2yrs ago in Hyderabad ............Andra Pradesh in India. now am planning to go for my Level III in UT and MPI . My ? if i prepare coupled with my experience with Material processing + Basic handbook +
SNT TC 1A 2006 + CP 189 + UT/MPI Level III guide and past questions ,will all that be enough for the exam or there questions that normally come outside of these materials during the exams.
Regards.

    
 
 
S.V.Swamy
Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex , India, Joined Feb 2001, 785

S.V.Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
785
17:53 Jan-20-2010
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to I Roberts at 13:23 Jan-20-2010 .

Dear Roberts,

In addition to what you mentioned, you need to be familiar with ASME, AWS codes and standards too.

With a good preparation, what you mentioned should be adeauate.

Best wishes.

Swamy

    
 
 
I Roberts
I Roberts
09:49 Jan-23-2010
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S.V.Swamy at 17:53 Jan-20-2010 .

Thanks for that Mr Swamy, fortunately,I had actually worked with D1.1 and ASME as reference standards for UT procedures on most structural construction inspections.I will also put that in mind while preparing for the exam.

    
 
 
ramdas
ramdas
15:05 May-22-2010
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S.V.Swamy at 08:36 Nov-20-2009 .

Sir I have passed the basic and RT method conducted the exam at mumbai in April 2010.Now i would like to attend UT level3. kindly advice me the names of the books i have to refer
Thanks

    
 
 
Nigel Armstrong
Engineering, - Specialist services
United Kingdom, Joined Oct 2000, 1094

Nigel Armstrong

Engineering, - Specialist services
United Kingdom,
Joined Oct 2000
1094
22:14 May-22-2010
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to ramdas at 15:05 May-22-2010 .

Congratulations Ramdas on your success and wishing you continued success. Now the challenge is to make yourself stand out from the crowd!

    
 
 
S.V.Swamy
Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex , India, Joined Feb 2001, 785

S.V.Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
785
06:53 May-26-2010
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to ramdas at 15:05 May-22-2010 .

Dear Ramdas,

Sai Ram. That is a greeting, a mantra and a blessing (for the information of other friends here). Congratulations and best wishes for the UT Level 3 course and exam. The General Dynamics Books (Programmed Instruction and Class Room Training Handbooks) are useful. Practice the ASNT sample questions. Read the applicable codes and standards. Feel free to ask any doubts.

Blessings and best wishes.

Swamy

    
 
 
Nigel Armstrong
Engineering, - Specialist services
United Kingdom, Joined Oct 2000, 1094

Nigel Armstrong

Engineering, - Specialist services
United Kingdom,
Joined Oct 2000
1094
09:28 May-26-2010
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S.V.Swamy at 06:53 May-26-2010 .

Sai Ram Swamy,

Are the GD books uo to Level 3? I have never seen those.

Addressed to forum in general:

All this emphasis on having to ask about which books as prepration for Level 3 is rather disconcerting in light of the fact that someone who one month asks which book to study could the next month be controlling an NDT facility - shudder!

    
 
 
S.V.Swamy
Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex , India, Joined Feb 2001, 785

S.V.Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
785
19:02 May-28-2010
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Nigel Armstrong at 09:28 May-26-2010 .

Dear Nigel,

Sai Ram. They are useful in refreshing one's concepts but are not sufficient for level III. That way no single book is useful. I remember how I carried a big suitcase of books (text books, hand books, technical papers, codes and standards, model questions etc.) when I was preparing for and writing my level III (way back in 2000). I was working in Hyderabad and the refreshment courses / exams were in Mumbai. I was travelling by train and it was indeed a big job to lug that heavy suitcase around ( no wheels for that suitcase at that time).

    
 
 
amir
amir
08:45 Aug-02-2010
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S.V.Swamy at 19:02 May-28-2010 .

Dears All,
I am preparing for ASNT Level-III UT exams and looking for some sample exam questions.
Appreciate if someone could share.

Thank you

    
 
 
Jim Draper
Consultant, ASNT Level III MT PT RT VT
Draper NDT, USA, Joined Jul 2009, 99

Jim Draper

Consultant, ASNT Level III MT PT RT VT
Draper NDT,
USA,
Joined Jul 2009
99
13:34 Aug-02-2010
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to amir at 08:45 Aug-02-2010 .

amir,

ASNT sells books of practice questions. I used them before taking the ASNT level III exams in MT, PT, RT and VT. I found that the questions in the book are not the same as the questions on the test, but they are helpful in preparing you for the test. Here is the link:
http://www.asnt.org/shop/merchant.ihtml?pid=1131&step=4
Good Luck on your exam!

Jim

    
 
 
Rafid O. López
, NDT Level 3
Mexico, Joined Jan 2010, 74

Rafid O. López

, NDT Level 3
Mexico,
Joined Jan 2010
74
15:44 Aug-02-2010
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Jim Draper at 13:34 Aug-02-2010 .

I think that everybody in this forum know that ASNT sell book of NDT!

Is more easy to say him, I don´t want give my books, you can buy your own books.

If someone want information, enter to this forum because think that someone can help him, but I see that ever it´s the same.

You can buy books in ASNT, ASNT seell books of NDT. that's something we all know.

we can help many people, why not help?

I have only information about PT and Basic.

    
 
 
Michel Couture
NDT Inspector,
consultant, Canada, Joined Sep 2006, 819

Michel Couture

NDT Inspector,
consultant,
Canada,
Joined Sep 2006
819
18:21 Aug-02-2010
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Rafid O. López at 15:44 Aug-02-2010 .

Rafid,

You said: "we can help many people, why not help?". I think many people in this forum are here to learn and to help others. With NDT being an ever changing field, it is virtually impossible to know everything about it. So this site, provides the good way of getting and giving the knowledge to people who truly seeks it and who wish to grow in this field.

But I like many others on this site, have paid (books, courses, examinations, time) to get were we are and therefore don't see why I (we) should give out questions bank or other material of that nature. As well, like I said on a previous post to someone else; whom ever spent the time researching the information and put out this questions bank should be paid for his work. We all had to pay, why not him?

If there is something he doesn't understand on the subject he is studying, that is a different matter and I'm sure many of the regular contributors to this site will be more than happy to help him understand the subject matter.

    
 
 
Rolf
Director, Editor, Publisher, Internet, PHP MySQL
NDT.net, Germany, Joined Nov 1998, 602

Rolf

Director, Editor, Publisher, Internet, PHP MySQL
NDT.net,
Germany,
Joined Nov 1998
602
18:51 Aug-02-2010
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to amir at 08:45 Aug-02-2010 .

To Amir,

The next time please post such a message like "Wanted ..." to the classified ads board.

To Michel,

I agree with you, it was my fault, actually I had to reject Amir's message here in the general discussion board.

Rolf

    
 
 
amir
amir
07:39 Aug-03-2010
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Rolf at 18:51 Aug-02-2010 .

Thanks, my intentions were not really to create confusions.

I was infact looking for someone to share if there are some questions available other than ASNT data bank which i already have.and of course i will buy these on a payement.

I have scanned my books of Basic and UT-3 study guides and some more material and will be available for free if someone really need this.deffinitely it takes time and efforts to gather all this material but makes comfort to help someone needy.

Cheers

    
 
 
Atif
Engineering
MRF, Pakistan, Joined Jan 2009, 14

Atif

Engineering
MRF,
Pakistan,
Joined Jan 2009
14
12:58 Aug-03-2010
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to amir at 07:39 Aug-03-2010 .

Hi Amir, If you need help in NDT Level 3 Basic exam then you can contact me by mail or if you are in Pakistan then you can call as well

    
 
 
amir
amir
13:52 Aug-03-2010
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Atif at 12:58 Aug-03-2010 .

Thanks dear.I will be in contact with you shortly

    
 
 
Jürgensen
Pelz GmbH & Co.KG, Germany, Joined Aug 2010, 3

Jürgensen

Pelz GmbH & Co.KG,
Germany,
Joined Aug 2010
3
13:52 Aug-11-2010
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to amir at 13:52 Aug-03-2010 .

your need help again ?

plaese ask, dr. achim Jung, phon: +49(0)221-99594032 or e-mail: jung@sector-cert.com

    
 
 
Jürgensen
Pelz GmbH & Co.KG, Germany, Joined Aug 2010, 3

Jürgensen

Pelz GmbH & Co.KG,
Germany,
Joined Aug 2010
3
16:36 Aug-11-2010
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Jürgensen at 13:52 Aug-11-2010 .

Company -specific examination based

Content:

The examinations based on ASNT Guideline SNT-TC-1A or US Standard CP-189 have a different structure to those based on DIN EN 473. During the Level 3 courses offered, in so far as they are not already covered by DIN EN 473 the BASIC examination and the inspection method-related examinations can be conducted by SECTOR Cert. In order to be certified by the employer, who/which is the certifying party according to these regulations, the candidate must also take a company specific examination. The exam questions have to be specially prepared for you on the basis of your company procedure (e.g. ASME code or API standards). Our services cover:



* A visit to your company site
* Critical appraisal of your written practice
* Preparation of 20 questions for each inspection method
* Conducting the company-specific examination
* Issue of the preliminary examination certificate for your company-based certification
Fees:
Basic fee: €1,650.–
Fee per inspection method / candidate: €550.–
Please fix a date with Ms Kirchartz at info[at]sector-cert.com or phone: +49–221–99594031

Bolt-on-Exam

Supplementary examination based on ACCP conducted by the American Society for Non-Destructive Testing (ASNT) or on the basis of “written practice” supervised by SECTOR Cert.

Content:

Supplementary knowledge relating to the US “ASME code” pressure vessel standards and the corresponding ASTM standards is communicated in extra training courses. The subsequent examination, consisting of a specific section and a practical section, covers the differences between DIN EN 473 and SNT-TC-1A. The procedure is laid down in a model written practice (procedural description), which the user can utilize for company-based certification. The qualifying certificate will be signed by an ASNT Level III examiner, citing your certification number. This offer applies to Levels 1+2.

Alternatively, the specific examination can also be conducted by ASNT following the ACCP Standard (ASNT Central Certification Program). In that case, the examination questions will come directly from the USA. The examination (in English, with a German translation attached) will be conducted by an ASNT examiner and ASNT itself will issue your certificate. This offer only applies to Level 2.

Programme:

Differences in inspection philosophyStructure of the ASME codeSpecifications regarding inspection techniques in Section VModel proceduresModel questions

Time schedule for inspection methods:

PT2/MT2/VT2 In each case: 1 day for training / 1 day for the examination
RT2/ UT2 2 days for training / 1 day for the examination

Participants and conditions:

This training course addresses persons who can furnish proof of having completed a corresponding Level 2 training course based on DIN EN 473 and have passed an examination at SECTOR Cert.

Fees:
Training: (2 days) €870.–
Examination by SECTOR Cert: (1 day) €520.–
Examination and certification by ASNT: For prices see ASNT website

Please fix a date with Ms Kirchartz at info[at]sector-cert.com or phone: +49–221–99594031

In this case the questions will come directly from ASNT, US. The exam is in English Language and will be observed by an examiner from SECTOR Cert having been approved by ASNT. SECTOR Cert offers the bolt-on-exam according to ACCP for level 2 and level 3 in the methods VT, MT, PT, RT, UT.

Further information: ASNT ACCP Level II and Level III. Please adhere to the application formalities ASNT application and information level 2 and level 3
RT2/UT2 // RT3/UT3 – 2 days
PT2/MT2/VT2 // MT3/PT3/ VT3 – 1 day
The exam and a certification according to ACCP is only possible if you have been examined and certified according to EN 473 by SECTOR Cert.

    
 
 
Subhakar
Consultant, TECHNICAL MANAGER
QA SYSTEMS PTE LTD, Singapore, Joined Aug 2010, 15

Subhakar

Consultant, TECHNICAL MANAGER
QA SYSTEMS PTE LTD,
Singapore,
Joined Aug 2010
15
05:19 Aug-21-2010
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Pratchaya Kittisakkul at 13:50 Nov-20-2009 .

Dear Sir,

Do you know for Nov-Level-III exam which Edition have to prepare CP-189, STC-TC-1A

    
 
 
S V Swamy
Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex , India, Joined Feb 2001, 785

S V Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
785
12:50 Aug-21-2010
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Subhakar at 05:19 Aug-21-2010 .

Dear Subhakar,

From the advertisement carried in ISNT website, SNT-TC-1A 2006 edition is being used. You may visit www.isnt.org.in for more details and the email ids of program coordinators and NCB Controller etc.

Best regards

Swamy

    
 
 
qasim
qasim
13:50 Dec-03-2010
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Atif at 12:58 Aug-03-2010 .

i want to get level 2 training and certificate in pakistan kindly guide me.

    
 
 
Ashraf
Ashraf
21:12 Jun-06-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Atif at 12:58 Aug-03-2010 .

Hello Amir

This is Ashraf, now I am preparing for NDT Basic III and RT-III and I am looking for material other than SNT-1A, CP-189, material & Prod Tech, could you please send me any material you have for above mentioned exams..

Thanks


Ashraf

    
 
 
sushil
sushil
11:27 Jun-25-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to ramdas at 15:05 May-22-2010 .

dear sir.
please give me advice to preparation of level 3 exam. i want to appear BA , RT,PT IN LEVEL 3 exam.

Regards
sushil

    
 
 
S V Swamy
Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex , India, Joined Feb 2001, 785

S V Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
785
15:41 Jun-26-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to sushil at 11:27 Jun-25-2011 .

Dear Sushil,

Sai Ram. Where are you located? I am in Hyderabad, AP, India. Pl. get in touch with me separately and I will help you with the right advice (no obligation, nothing to pay).

Swamy

    
 
 
Gokul Pillai
Gokul Pillai
05:02 Aug-10-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S V Swamy at 15:41 Jun-26-2011 .

Hello All,

I am planning to do ASNT UT III,
I wish to do it in my home country India but I am confused about the cost,place,time n all. I stay in Mumbai.
Can someone help me get through it.
I am into this field for the past 6 years.
I am working as a AUT operator on pipelines (globally)

on googling I came across this page...
And with great respect I honor the guys giving the suggestions and helping hand.

Kind

Regards

Gokul

    
 
 
S V Swamy
Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex , India, Joined Feb 2001, 785

S V Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
785
14:47 Aug-11-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Gokul Pillai at 05:02 Aug-10-2011 .

Dear Gokul,

Sai Ram. The next ASNT Level III Exam is most probably going to be held in November at Mumbai. The refresher courses also will be organized by ISNT, Mumbai Chapter. Pl. see the link: http://www.isnt.org.in/ASNT%20Level%20III%20Announcement.pdf for more details.

Regards

Swamy
Ex. Hony. CoTreasurer and Member, National Governing Council, ISNT
Consultant, Quality and NDT etc.

    
 
 
Gokul Pillai
Gokul Pillai
07:57 Aug-19-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S V Swamy at 14:47 Aug-11-2011 .

Thank you very much....
I am working offshore now... I hope November will be a great time... I will be there in Mumbai that time...

Thank !!

Regards

Gokul

    
 
 
kehinde Afolabi
kehinde Afolabi
16:56 Oct-07-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S.V.Swamy at 08:36 Nov-20-2009 .

I want to train for asnt level 3 in mt and pt and basic. Please where can i get it done in India.

    
 
 
S V Swamy
Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex , India, Joined Feb 2001, 785

S V Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
785
13:58 Oct-08-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to kehinde Afolabi at 16:56 Oct-07-2011 .

The best way is to prepare as much as possible oneself and then register for the refresher course that ISNT offers a few weeks before the ASNT Exam (ISNT-NCB is the authorized body in India for conducting ASNT Level III Examinations). The next exam is already scheduled for November last week at Mumbai, India and you may be too late for it. The next exam will be in April or May of next year. Pl. see www.isnt.org.in for course and exam announcements.

Best wishes.

Swamy
Hyderaba, India

    
 
 
kiran
kiran
20:14 Oct-10-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S V Swamy at 13:58 Oct-08-2011 .

hi everyone,

Its good to see the discussions about level III examination frequently.
I appeared level III in may 2011 and cleared UT.
But didn't succeeded in BASIC exam but i got a score above 80%in personnel Q&A
but 65-80 in metallurgy and ndt methods.
Is there any material available for Q&A in these two other than specified by ASNT which helps to my exam.

thanks.

    
 
 
Jeffrey Tay
NDT Inspector, PT ET UT Level II, MT Level III
Singapore, Joined Oct 2010, 43

Jeffrey Tay

NDT Inspector, PT ET UT Level II, MT Level III
Singapore,
Joined Oct 2010
43
09:23 Oct-12-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to kiran at 20:14 Oct-10-2011 .

Hi Kiran,

It's the same for me, I passed MT and failed my basic. For metallurgy, there is a book that is selling by ASNT, titled "process technology" which is for metallurgy and all various processes i.e welding, casting etc. As for the methods, you can try logging onto www.lavender-ndt.com they have got Q&A for metallurgy, processes and all methods. Good luck to you... My basic paper is scheduled on 28th Nov over at TWI Malaysia...

    
 
 
Ibrahem Waheed
Ibrahem Waheed
10:45 Oct-12-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S V Swamy at 13:58 Oct-08-2011 .

Dears
If you can help? I accessed the ASNT website to start my endeavor to join the basic exam, but i found a lot of reference that around 3 handbook + 2 standard. My question, do i need to study those handbook (which i think is difficult, they are about 5000 technical pages) or do i need to join level III basic course, or what should i do? Really i got frustrated when i saw all of those standard. Waiting your advice.

Thanks

    
 
 
ebrahemwaheed
ebrahemwaheed
14:51 Oct-12-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Ibrahem Waheed at 10:45 Oct-12-2011 .

Dears
If you can clear it more for me, do i need to completely read the following book to be ready for exam
1- ASNT industry handbook
2- Materials and Processes for NDT Technology
3- Nondestructive Testing Handbook
4- Nondestructive Evaluation and Quality Control
and others that are available and mentioned by ASNT

Please advice

    
 
 
S V Swamy
Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex , India, Joined Feb 2001, 785

S V Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
785
17:08 Oct-12-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to ebrahemwaheed at 14:51 Oct-12-2011 .

Dear Ibrahim,

No. I don't think you need to study so much. However, you need to have access to study material that covers all the NDT methods in some depth - there are some good books for that.

I am in India and whatever material I have is in physical paper form, not soft copies. I keep getting requests for sharing that from many people but the main problem is that it needs a lot of effort and some cost to get them scanned / digitized and then there are trust issues / copyright issues (I can be sued by the authors of the material for illegal scanning)....

Regards

Swamy
Hyderabad
India

    
 
 
Oliviero
NDT Inspector,
Quality Control srl, Italy, Joined Oct 2008, 414

Oliviero

NDT Inspector,
Quality Control srl,
Italy,
Joined Oct 2008
414
22:02 Oct-12-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to ebrahemwaheed at 14:51 Oct-12-2011 .

Why not,
the ASNT basic guide could address the needs.
The guide includes more than 400 questions relevant to all the basic examination contents and has bibliography references.
Trying to answer all the question could address you to expand your knowledge on the part you are faibles and to know which type of book need to be used.

    
 
 
ebrahemwaheed
ebrahemwaheed
11:41 Oct-13-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Oliviero at 22:02 Oct-12-2011 .

Dear Mr. Oliviero/Swamy
What i understood is that, if i need to start the endeavors to level III, i should start to prepare myself for the basic exam by read the basic guide initially and try to solve the questions available in this guide, whatever i found myself not familiar with i will refer back to the references mentioned by ASNT to make myself familiar with and so on up to end of this basic guide, after finish this basic and be familiar with all question related subject at that time i will be ready for basic exam . Is my understanding is the right, is it the best way to prepare myself for basic exam?

Mr. Swamy; thanks for your kind help. I have all the references here available with me, whatever needed more i can purchase, but my intention is to find the way to level III/the start point, I am know like a blind man how doesn't know the way and need someone to show him. Whatever books or references you will ask me to read, i will purchase or find it, just i need the first point or the way plan.

Thanks and waiting your reply

    
 
 
Oliver
NDT Inspector,
Quality Control srl, Italy, Joined Oct 2008, 414

Oliver

NDT Inspector,
Quality Control srl,
Italy,
Joined Oct 2008
414
22:58 Oct-13-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to ebrahemwaheed at 11:41 Oct-13-2011 .

Dear Ibrahem waheed,

you understan right, but I don't know if it is the best way to prepare by yourself for the examination. Where are you starting from? Have you some experience in the industrial sector you are looking for the certification? Are you an NDT yet certified as level I or II?

    
 
 
S V Swamy
Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex , India, Joined Feb 2001, 785

S V Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
785
15:30 Oct-14-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to ebrahemwaheed at 11:41 Oct-13-2011 .

I will suggest to you separately one or 2 good books that cover all NDT methods in fairly good detail.

I can answer specific doubts if any. Beyond that, there is not much one can do.

Best wishes.

Swamy
Hyderabad, India

    
 
 
John Brunk
Engineering, NDT Level III
Self employed, part-time, USA, Joined Oct 1999, 158

John Brunk

Engineering, NDT Level III
Self employed, part-time,
USA,
Joined Oct 1999
158
23:15 Oct-14-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to ebrahemwaheed at 11:41 Oct-13-2011 .

When I was a member of the ASNT council responsible for Level III exam questions, more people failed the Basic exam than any of the others. This was a long time ago, 1995-98, but I suspect this is still true. I think some people get very nervous when they find questions about unfamiliar techniques and then do not do as well as they could if they remained calm. Keep in mind that it is not necessary to be an expert in every method and the percent correct required to pass may be lower than you expect. Some of the questions are on interpretation of SNT-TC-1A and how to carry out the responsibilities of a Level III. You should carefully study SNT-TC-1A as well as the various methods. A new edition has just been released. You can get Level III study guides in most, if not all, methods from ASNT.

    
 
 
kiran kumar
kiran kumar
15:30 Oct-16-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to John Brunk at 23:15 Oct-14-2011 .

hi all,

A new edition of SNT-TC-1A has just been released,will it affect the questions for the exam in November.Simultaneously a new edition of CP-189 is also released but i am having only SNT-TC-1A (2011) is there any major changes in the edition of CP-189,if i put an order to get the book from ASNT i will get it by the end of November by the time my i will finish my exam.
can anyone help me out with this one.

thank you

    
 
 
S V Swamy
Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex , India, Joined Feb 2001, 785

S V Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
785
11:07 Oct-17-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to kiran kumar at 15:30 Oct-16-2011 .

No. They would have mentioned some earlier edition in the syllabus. They will not change immediately and will enough notice to the candidates.

So, don't worry and best wishes.

Swamy
Hyderabad, India

    
 
 
Ghanta Siva Rajesh
, QA/QC Technical Manager
ADNOC, United Arab Emirates (UAE), Joined Oct 2011, 28

Ghanta Siva Rajesh

, QA/QC Technical Manager
ADNOC,
United Arab Emirates (UAE),
Joined Oct 2011
28
02:29 Oct-29-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S V Swamy at 11:07 Oct-17-2011 .

Hello everyone

I am going write asnt level III basic and MT in Dec 2011
I want to know how much weitage for each topic in basic exam, I know that total 135 questions
What I want to know is how many questions from each topic
1. SNT-TC-1A/ASNT CP-189
2. other NDT methods
3. Materials, fabrication, and production technology

And one more thing is, I have these 4 book
1. Level III Study Guide: Basic (2251)
2. SNT-TC-1A (2006 edition) (2070)
3. Materials and Processes for NDT Technology (2250)
4. ANSI/ASNT CP-189 (2006 edition) (2507)

Are these 4 books sufficient to pass basic exam or do I need to study other 2 hand books also?

NDT Handbook: Volume 10, NDT Overview (135)
ASM Handbook Vol. 17, NDE and QC (105)

Thanks in advance

Siva Rajesh

    
 
 
Oliviero
NDT Inspector,
Quality Control srl, Italy, Joined Oct 2008, 414

Oliviero

NDT Inspector,
Quality Control srl,
Italy,
Joined Oct 2008
414
12:12 Oct-29-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Ghanta Siva Rajesh at 02:29 Oct-29-2011 .

I think that both the books at the end of your list are needed.
I don't know the weight of each examination part, but ASNT representative could give you the answer

    
 
 
Ghanta Siva Rajesh
, QA/QC Technical Manager
ADNOC, United Arab Emirates (UAE), Joined Oct 2011, 28

Ghanta Siva Rajesh

, QA/QC Technical Manager
ADNOC,
United Arab Emirates (UAE),
Joined Oct 2011
28
00:26 Oct-30-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Oliviero at 12:12 Oct-29-2011 .

Thanks Oliviero

    
 
 
S V Swamy
Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex , India, Joined Feb 2001, 785

S V Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
785
03:32 Nov-01-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Ghanta Siva Rajesh at 00:26 Oct-30-2011 .

Dear Siva Rajesh,

Sai Ram. You would need to have access to a book or handbook that covers all the NDT methods. The two handbooks that you mentioned at the end of your post would probably do that and then there are other sources, for example ASNT used to carry one book that covered all NDT methods, had good practice questions (not the multiple choice type) at the end of each chapter etc. I don't find that book listed now. Then we in India found the book of Dr. Baldev Raj, Jayakumar etc. very useful and very importantly highly economical. So, see what you can get and prepare well. Best wishes. Swamy

    
 
 
amir sajjad
NDT Inspector, Saudi Specialized Laboratories Co. (NDTEL) Motabaqah
Saudi Specialized Laboratories Co. MOTABAQAH, Saudi Arabia, Joined Mar 2011, 21

amir sajjad

NDT Inspector, Saudi Specialized Laboratories Co. (NDTEL) Motabaqah
Saudi Specialized Laboratories Co. MOTABAQAH,
Saudi Arabia,
Joined Mar 2011
21
13:08 Nov-02-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to qasim at 13:50 Dec-03-2010 .

Qasim,
You can contact me on my E-mail ID.Deffinitely i will guide you through the process.

    
 
 
kiran kumar
kiran kumar
15:05 Nov-04-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S V Swamy at 03:32 Nov-01-2011 .

dear sir,

Will the book you mentioned for BASIC NDT methods is helpful for the exam.Where can i get that book.Because i am bit lagging in ndt methods if i can get that book it will be more helpful to me.

Thank you.

    
 
 
S V Swamy
Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex , India, Joined Feb 2001, 785

S V Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
785
16:16 Nov-04-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to kiran kumar at 15:05 Nov-04-2011 .

Dear Kiran Kumar,

Sai Ram. The book is available in India with Narosa Publishers and with NCB, ISNT. It is useful but you would need to work on your understanding.

Where are you located? Write to me separately if needed.

Regards

Swamy
Hyderabad
India

    
 
 
UTTAMGOPAL DAS
UTTAMGOPAL DAS
21:39 Nov-05-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S V Swamy at 16:16 Nov-04-2011 .

Dear kiran,

You can get the book online from ASNT website too .

We are also training ASNT NDT LEVEL III by 3 months correspondence and Video conferencing . May write to me dash@dashinspectorate.com

    
 
 
amir
NDT Inspector, Saudi Specialized Laboratories Co. (NDTEL) Motabaqah
Saudi Specialized Laboratories Co. MOTABAQAH, Saudi Arabia, Joined Mar 2011, 21

amir

NDT Inspector, Saudi Specialized Laboratories Co. (NDTEL) Motabaqah
Saudi Specialized Laboratories Co. MOTABAQAH,
Saudi Arabia,
Joined Mar 2011
21
12:52 Nov-29-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to kiran kumar at 15:05 Nov-04-2011 .

For study material required to pass UT Level-III exam you may contact me

    
 
 
Roop Kumar
Roop Kumar
07:50 Dec-19-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S.V.Swamy at 03:18 Mar-19-2009 .

Dear S V swamy,
I graduated from IIT Delhi with mechanical Engineering as my major, I am a little confused about choosing my career path. Right now I am working in Energo engineering Projects limited, New Delhi and my basic designation is executive engineer and I perform Power plant auditing, I am a fresher in this area and just have and experience of 6 months. I heard about ASNT Level 3, but even after exhaustive searching about it, I didn't find any relevant thread which could tell me the future prospects of taking ASNT level 3. Can you briefly tell me what are the benefits and what future opportunities will I get after ASNT level 3.

Thank you
Roop Kumar

    
 
 
S V Swamy
Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex , India, Joined Feb 2001, 785

S V Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
785
14:27 Dec-20-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Roop Kumar at 07:50 Dec-19-2011 .

Dear Roop Kumar,

Your work description does not indicate a need to get certified in NDT (it may just need some familiarity with the various NDT Terms as a part of the Audit process). Your experience will not count towards the needed experience and you would be treated as a fresher.

If your company is engaged in any NDT work with power plants, then you may, in addition to your existing duties, take up that work too and work with certified personnel and gain the needed experience. I would recommend that you take up Level II certification instead of going directly for level III.

It would also be a good idea to discuss with your technical and HRD bosses the career progression and the need / desirability of any Certifications.

Regards

Swamy

    
 
 
Deepak Varma
Deepak Varma
05:09 Dec-23-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to richeng at 08:03 Mar-18-2009 (Opening).

Very very easy if you take exam L3 in India.. You can counting with Training centre. Believe or not,just look around how many Indians people have L3.

Regard
Deepak Varma
Ex-Indians now Brazillians..

    
 
 
Owen
NDT Inspector,
China, Joined Dec 2011, 1

Owen

NDT Inspector,
China,
Joined Dec 2011
1
07:34 Dec-23-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to amir at 07:39 Aug-03-2010 .

Hi Amir,

Will you please share me your information for UT Level III? I want to learn to pass the ASNT Level III exam cause my company need a level III inspector to be responsible for the UT scan procedure, and you know,it's difficult for people in East Asia to accomplish this.

Best regards!

Owen

    
 
 
Roop Kumar
Roop Kumar
11:16 Dec-23-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S V Swamy at 14:27 Dec-20-2011 .

Dear S V Swamy,
Thank you for the information. Apart from power plant auditing I also have to perform RLA studies, which requires various NDTs and through that I heard about asnt exams. As a fresher I am not aware of benefits of ASNT level 3. Could you kindly elaborate what opportunities, would open up if I qualify this exam? and what kind of career will I end up building. It's important for me to know it as at this very early stage of career, I could easily choose what is better and what suits me than regretting later on.

Thank you
Roop Kumar

    
 
 
S V Swamy
Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex , India, Joined Feb 2001, 785

S V Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
785
13:00 Dec-25-2011
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Roop Kumar at 11:16 Dec-23-2011 .

Dear Roop Kumar,

Yes, RLA studies would involve NDT and some semi-NDT tests. If you are responsible for carrying out the tests, setting up procedures and interpreting the results, you may be eligible for a career in NDT (in those methods).

In any case, at this stage of the career, I would not recommend a Level III certification (unless your company wants to sponsor you) considering the cost. It is better to go for a level II Certification and see a few years before trying to invest in a level III Certification.

Think of the levels as follows: Level 1 for the operator, Level 2 for the Supervisor with a good need for hands on work, and level 3 as the officer in charge or a manager. The company would need only one level 3 for a given method. Better discuss with your seniors about your role a few years ahead from now.

In India, there are many ASNT Level IIIs and many more get certified each year. Of course the economy is also growing and thus the prospects are also improving. I am not very familiar with the private sector since my whole working life was spent in Department of Atomic Energy, Government of India. Very good work environment, very secure job with pension benefits and health cover, but very little if any real growth in financial terms...Now retired and leading a happy peaceful life....

Best regards

Swamy
Hyderabad

    
 
 
Mohammed Ilyas Mohiuddin
Mohammed Ilyas Mohiuddin
04:51 Jan-12-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S V Swamy at 13:00 Dec-25-2011 .

Dear Mr. Swamy,
If i am not mistaken you are an ex employee of NFC in hyderabad, heard a lot about you from one of my firend Abdul Basith presnetly in Sabic Saudia Arabia.

I am presently working in Thailand in one of the inspection company, We are promoting our inspectors to take up ASNT Level III examinations. We would like to conduct inhouse trainings and looking for an experianced instructor to help us. Kindly acknowledge if you are interested to take up this assignments. You can contact me on mohammed.ilyas@dacon-inspection.com

Regards

    
 
 
S V Swamy
Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex , India, Joined Feb 2001, 785

S V Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
785
16:50 Jan-15-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Mohammed Ilyas Mohiuddin at 04:51 Jan-12-2012 .

Dear Mohammed Ilyas,

Thanks for asking and yes, I am indeed the same person. Abdul Basith is my good friend and I am happy he is doing well.

As for your offer, thanks but no. I am afraid I can't leave Hyderabad for now. At the same time, I will be happy to assist you and your staff through online interaction, mostly about basics, concepts, proper application of formulas etc. In any case, I wish the best to the candidates. Feel free to write separately if needed to svswamy@gmail.com - my personal email id.

Best regards

Swamy
Ex NFC, Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh, India

    
 
 
Ronak
Ronak
08:48 Feb-03-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S V Swamy at 16:50 Jan-15-2012 .

hello sir
Right now,I am fresher in metallurgy industry and i know testing has a hug market so i will plane to clear Level 2 or 3 ? i don't know deeply about NDT level 3?
Is it hard or difficult to pass in level 3 exam?
In case i will fail in level 3 than i can get the job on level 2 basis?i show that there are to many job seeks on the basis of level 2 so is it difficult to find the job on level 2?
what is the next after the level 3? there is another course are present for further career?

    
 
 
S V Swamy
Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex , India, Joined Feb 2001, 785

S V Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
785
12:15 Feb-06-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Ronak at 08:48 Feb-03-2012 .

Dear Ronak,

If I understand you correctly, you finished your graduation and are now employed in a metallurgical industry. If so, you would need to get yourself trained and certified as a level II and work for some time before thinking of a level 3, which is a team leader / manager sort of job.

If your present job is in testing (NDT) well and good. If not, you would do well to join as a trainee engineer and get the experience first (about 1 to 2 years) and then for the level 2 certification in the relevant NDT method.

I will definitely advise you against in spending hard earned money (either earned by you or your parents) on Level 3 Certification at this stage of your career.

What is next after level 3? You are the best to answer that after you clear the level 3 Exams.

Best wishes.

Swamy

you wrote:


hello sir
Right now,I am fresher in metallurgy industry and i know testing has a hug market so i will plane to clear Level 2 or 3 ? i don't know deeply about NDT level 3?
Is it hard or difficult to pass in level 3 exam?
In case i will fail in level 3 than i can get the job on level 2 basis?i show that there are to many job seeks on the basis of level 2 so is it difficult to find the job on level 2?
what is the next after the level 3? there is another course are present for further career?

    
 
 
thescottie
thescottie
14:24 Feb-07-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S V Swamy at 12:15 Feb-06-2012 .

Alternative to the study and having to go through getting level II and then gaining experience, you could just go to India find one of the numerous corrupt individuals pay and get a cert, ok so it may have the same number as someone else but the printed copy you have will have your name on it.

    
 
 
azri
NDT Inspector, NDT Tech.
Malaysia, Joined Feb 2011, 8

azri

NDT Inspector, NDT Tech.
Malaysia,
Joined Feb 2011
8
17:13 Mar-03-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to thescottie at 14:24 Feb-07-2012 .

hallo all,

Wanna get clarification, asnt accp level 3 or asnt ndt level 3?..whats the different in the scope of work, which one more demand?

Thanks

    
 
 
John M. Champion
Other, UT/AUT Scanner Technician
International Union of Operating Engineers; (NDT) Local #112 , USA, Joined Apr 2009, 16

John M. Champion

Other, UT/AUT Scanner Technician
International Union of Operating Engineers; (NDT) Local #112 ,
USA,
Joined Apr 2009
16
00:29 Mar-04-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to azri at 17:13 Mar-03-2012 .

To answer your question as to ACCP or ASNT level 2 certification. ASNT certification is primarily certification for the United States. ACCP (ASNT Central Certification Program) to my understanding is along the lines of a PCN or CGSB in that it (ACCP) allows work outside of the USA instead of having to secure certification in PCN or CGSB to work outside the U.S. Please correct me if I am mistaken.
ASNT.org describes it thusly:

"ASNT widened the scope of its certification offerings to include Level II certification in 1996 with ASNT Central Certification Program™ Level II certification. The ACCP® Level II examinations include General, Specific, Practical, and Instruction Preparation examinations in five NDT methods (MT, PT, RT, UT and VT). ACCP® Level II certification meets the requirements of ISO 9712 Level II certification."

I hope this answers your question.
Best regards

    
 
 
azri
NDT Inspector, NDT Tech.
Malaysia, Joined Feb 2011, 8

azri

NDT Inspector, NDT Tech.
Malaysia,
Joined Feb 2011
8
09:29 Mar-04-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to John M. Champion at 00:29 Mar-04-2012 .

dear john,

Thanks for reply, I need more clarification, especially to those people thats experience in doing level 3 services, whats the difference in application of accp ndt level 3 and asnt ndt level 3 when we are doing level3 services..

    
 
 
Ulf Hansen
Director, CSM NDT Certification
CSM NDT Certification / Exova, Sweden, Joined Aug 2011, 30

Ulf Hansen

Director, CSM NDT Certification
CSM NDT Certification / Exova,
Sweden,
Joined Aug 2011
30
20:07 Mar-04-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to azri at 09:29 Mar-04-2012 .

Hi

The ASNT level III education was created in the seventies when a lot of companies used the loopholes in SNT-TC-1A to assign any person to be responsible for the NDT system. It is a good education but does not cover the practical side of NDT since you do not need to pass a practical method exam or a procedure preparation on level III.

ASNT ACCP (1996) is a clever way to bridge over to ISO-9712 and also into the EN 473. I got the impression that it might be possible to get a ISO9712 certificate and also a EN 473 from a ASNT ACCP certificate. I think it is TÜV Nord in Germany who handle these issues. ASNT ACCP, EN 473 and ISO9712 demands that you have a level II method exam in your level III education to work with level II assignments. In ASNT it is sufficient to have the level III.

But of course it depends on what you want to acchieve. For me ASNT is quite sufficient since I am responsible for the SNT-TC-1A within my Company.

ASNT is very cost-effective. ASNT ACCP, EN 473 and ISO 9712 is a lot more expensive and time consuming with all the extra practical and procedure exams.

Best Regards/Ulf Hansen

    
 
 
Michael Weichelt
Michael Weichelt
22:04 Mar-05-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Ulf Hansen at 20:07 Mar-04-2012 .

Hello all, I am interested in taking the RT level III but I am hearing this is a very difficult test. I spoke with someone who recently failed the exam and he said there were several questions on areas he had never heard or read about. I have the ASNT Level III study guide and the Q & A book, can you please direct me to study material that would assist in passing this exam? Thanks so much, Mick

    
 
 
S V Swamy
Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex , India, Joined Feb 2001, 785

S V Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
785
02:20 Mar-06-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Michael Weichelt at 22:04 Mar-05-2012 .

Dear Michael,

RT Level III could be very tough indeed. Way back in 2000, I took Basic, UT and RT on consecutive days. I could complete Basic with almost 1 hour to spare, UT with about 10 minutes left and when it came to RT, I had to 'guess' the answers for about 5 questions (due to running out of time).

There are problems that test many concepts. You won't probably get any material that directly helps with such problems. However, such problems are about 15 or 20.

I have a few suggestions - be as thorough as possible about the basic concepts and the normal calculations etc. That would give you more time to think about such problems.

General Dynamics Class room Training Handbooks and Kodak / Agfa guides on the imaging process are helpful.

Go with good preparation and an open mind. Going with anxiety will not help thinking process.

Best wishes.

Swamy

    
 
 
Michael Weichelt
NDT Inspector,
USA, Joined Mar 2012, 14

Michael Weichelt

NDT Inspector,
USA,
Joined Mar 2012
14
04:43 Mar-06-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S V Swamy at 02:20 Mar-06-2012 .

Dear Swamy,
Thank you so much for your time and help. Mick

    
 
 
Ulf Hansen
Director, CSM NDT Certification
CSM NDT Certification / Exova, Sweden, Joined Aug 2011, 30

Ulf Hansen

Director, CSM NDT Certification
CSM NDT Certification / Exova,
Sweden,
Joined Aug 2011
30
08:09 Mar-06-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Michael Weichelt at 04:43 Mar-06-2012 .

Hi Mick

I think people from USA have a advantage with the language, even people from GB have difficulties. I took the Basic before lunch and RT after lunch. I had no problems with the Basic since I am a metallurgist (finished very quickly) RT was a bit tougher.

In preparing I took the time to read the entire ASNT handbook "Radiographic Testing", and the Study Guide. I also stuided the Q/A booklet, but it can be deceptive to only study questions. RT contains a lot of calculations and I must admit I was almost chocked when I opened the yellow envelope and saw the first questions. My best advise is to study in order to understand, especially radiation calculations.

Best regards/Ulf Hansen

    
 
 
Mick
NDT Inspector,
USA, Joined Mar 2012, 14

Mick

NDT Inspector,
USA,
Joined Mar 2012
14
22:17 Mar-07-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Ulf Hansen at 08:09 Mar-06-2012 .

Thank you Ulf. The Basic was difficult for me but I did pass it and the MP. Next is RT then UT and last PT. Thanks again. Mick

    
 
 
nandan dimri
NDT Inspector,
India, Joined Mar 2012, 3

nandan dimri

NDT Inspector,
India,
Joined Mar 2012
3
07:30 Mar-08-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Mick at 22:17 Mar-07-2012 .

Hello everyone,

I plan to get ASNT level-3 certification in PT,MT,UT & RT.
i know this is going to take time and i am ready to invest time, but the problem is i really dont know anything about the certification starting from what all exams i will have to take, the exam schedule, the exam centers, the study material, how to prepare, the standard of the exam, the fees for the examination.

So please explain to me the complete procedure starting from scrap, it would take a bit of time of yours but will help me a great deal. :-)

    
 
 
S V Swamy
Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex , India, Joined Feb 2001, 785

S V Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
785
11:53 Mar-08-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to nandan dimri at 07:30 Mar-08-2012 .

Dear Nandan,

I presume that you are already a level II in these fields. Since you are from India, it will be simpler to communicate. I suggest that you write to me separately at svswamy@gmail.com or this email - quality.consults@gmail.com and I will try to guide you in detail. I am in Hyderabad.

Swamy

    
 
 
nandan dimri
NDT Inspector,
India, Joined Mar 2012, 3

nandan dimri

NDT Inspector,
India,
Joined Mar 2012
3
12:39 Mar-08-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S V Swamy at 11:53 Mar-08-2012 .

Dear Sir,

Thanx for the reply, yes i am Level2 in all these, i will mail you sir.

    
 
 
Siva Rajesh
, QA/QC Technical Manager
ADNOC, United Arab Emirates (UAE), Joined Oct 2011, 28

Siva Rajesh

, QA/QC Technical Manager
ADNOC,
United Arab Emirates (UAE),
Joined Oct 2011
28
08:35 Mar-22-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to nandan dimri at 12:39 Mar-08-2012 .

Hello friends

i am going to write RT leve 3 soon for that i want to know

what r the books to read other than ASNT guide

and how many problems (calculations) may come in the exam (rough estimation)

Thanks in advance

    
 
 
S V Swamy
Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex , India, Joined Feb 2001, 785

S V Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
785
09:23 Mar-22-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Siva Rajesh at 08:35 Mar-22-2012 .

If you go through the replies in this thread earlier, you will get the information - basically General Dynamics Class Room Training book and books by Kodak / Agfa on the imaging and photographic process, image interpretation etc. are useful. You would also need to be familiar with AWS and ASME Codes.

About the number of problems involving calculations, RT has a number of them - difficult to give you a figure esp. after so many years. About 1/3rd would be my guess...

If you need specific help with the formulas and calculations, write to me and I may be able to help.

Best wishes

Swamy

    
 
 
Mick
NDT Inspector,
USA, Joined Mar 2012, 14

Mick

NDT Inspector,
USA,
Joined Mar 2012
14
03:56 May-03-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S V Swamy at 09:23 Mar-22-2012 .

Hello, has anyone taken the level III PT recently? I have read the ASNT study guide and QA but there doesn't seem to be much there.

    
 
 
Mick
NDT Inspector,
USA, Joined Mar 2012, 14

Mick

NDT Inspector,
USA,
Joined Mar 2012
14
17:28 May-03-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Mick at 03:56 May-03-2012 .

Hi, I guess what Im asking is....is that study guide enough or should I get more books? Thanks, Mick

    
 
 
Imran
Saudi Arabia, Joined Jul 2011, 1

Imran

Saudi Arabia,
Joined Jul 2011
1
11:59 May-20-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S V Swamy at 09:23 Mar-22-2012 .

Dear Swamy Sir,

I am ASNT LEVEL III In UT. I now desire to attend TOFD/Phassed Array training. I am not sure whether ASNT Level II in tofd/paut is available in India. Can you please advise ?.

My friends have told me to go for PCN TOFD/PAUT. Again, I do not know approved orgnizations in India who conduct them. Please let us know.

Kind Regards,

Muhammad

    
 
 
S.V.Swamy
Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex , India, Joined Feb 2001, 785

S.V.Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
785
18:21 May-20-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Imran at 11:59 May-20-2012 .

Thanks for writing but I also have no idea about the specific technique related training that you are asking.

Regards

Swamy

    
 
 
Harendra Latiyan
Harendra Latiyan
08:28 May-21-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Imran at 11:59 May-20-2012 .

Dear Muhammad,

Drop a mail to me.

I will provide you with the contact details of approved PA/TOFD training centers in India.

    
 
 
Birupakhya prasad sahu
Birupakhya prasad sahu
09:13 Jun-20-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to richeng at 08:03 Mar-18-2009 (Opening).

hello everybody..
i want to do asnt level 3 on ut in this nov 2012
i had done btech in mechanical engg currently working as a NDT engg.
i know ut but i don't have site experiance on it.
so give me suggestions will I appear level 3 this time ??????
plz give me reply
I am requesting to all.

    
 
 
Mick
NDT Inspector,
USA, Joined Mar 2012, 14

Mick

NDT Inspector,
USA,
Joined Mar 2012
14
18:34 Jun-26-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Birupakhya prasad sahu at 09:13 Jun-20-2012 .

Hello, I took the UT level III 25 Jun12. I did not pass the test. Study immersion. techniques. I

    
 
 
SM.SALMAN
SM.SALMAN
01:20 Jul-12-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S.V.Swamy at 03:52 Jan-08-2010 .

Dear Swamysir,

My self Salman and I m from Hyderabad India,Requesting you to please send me Entrance exam material for NDT level-3,Sir as seeing in the forum for discussion of Course toughness,I really respected and welcome you replies of motivation.I request you to continuous motivating us in same way as in future also.

    
 
 
S.V.Swamy
Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex , India, Joined Feb 2001, 785

S.V.Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
785
15:42 Jul-12-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to SM.SALMAN at 01:20 Jul-12-2012 .

Dear Salman,

If you are in Hyderabad get in touch with me through email and I will give you more details how to contact me in person. If I have what you need, I will give it.

    
 
 
Ramakant Sharma
Ramakant Sharma
19:51 Jul-13-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to amir at 07:39 Aug-03-2010 .

Dear Sir, Thanks for your kind help for needy candidates. Well i am Ramakant Sharma from Ranchi Bihar India. I am appearing NDT level3 exam for Basic,UT & MT, which is going to conduct on Nov. 2012. I would be very thankful to you if u may able to sending me all related documents bcoz i belong to much away from any institute which is offering NDT courses. I really need your help for that.
Sincerely,
Ramakant Sharma
Email: ramakant.fbd@gmail.com
+91-9910656521

    
 
 
KASAHU
KASAHU
11:00 Jul-14-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Birupakhya prasad sahu at 09:13 Jun-20-2012 .

Birupakhya you have sufficient to study.I think u can do it.

    
 
 
k.adisa
k.adisa
13:45 Nov-22-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to richeng at 08:03 Mar-18-2009 (Opening).

Dear member,

Please I need advise on which of test method is mostly applicable around the world or western country have study NDT during my HND and Degree, with experience as structural steel welder and fabricator my employer want Level I, II & III non iwant challenge my self by taking one online NDT trainning and examination but not sure the best or the best web site for online courses.
K adisa

    
 
 
Nigel Armstrong
Engineering, - Specialist services
United Kingdom, Joined Oct 2000, 1094

Nigel Armstrong

Engineering, - Specialist services
United Kingdom,
Joined Oct 2000
1094
13:23 Nov-23-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to k.adisa at 13:45 Nov-22-2012 .

Kamal

Which method do you have most variety of experience in? Which do you feel most comfortable with? Only you can answer that question. Go on and conquer the world!

Examine WHY you want to be Level 3 - do you think your knowledge and abilitiy to understand codes and standards is sufficeint, perrhaps greater than others. Are you more meticulous in keeping a strict interpretation of these codes and standards.

Penetrant is ubiquitous in aircraft manufacture. Oil and Gas is a big user of standard methods, but you can glean from this forum you will face competition from your fellow countrymen - I guess there must be over 1000 Indian Level 3's now.

Good luck

Nigel

    
 
 
Jianjun Wu
Jianjun Wu
09:56 Nov-26-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Nigel Armstrong at 13:23 Nov-23-2012 .

This september I attend the ASNT RT level III exam. Unfortunately, I did not pass the it. Maybe I failed in Basic.

Regarding the time, I think that's not a problem. When I finished the answer sheet, there about one hour left. For me, language is the biggest problem. So many formal or unique English words and phrases are used in the paper. Even it says fissure instead of crack! In addition, I fogot to take the dictionary at side. If I took, maybe this time I would pass the exam!!!

Actually, from the exam, I know how the exam is proceeded. I am now on studying and preparation for the re-exam next year.

After that, I joined this forum. Of cause I will be much benefited because there are so many warm-hearted people here to share their knowledge and experience. Thanks for your valuable advice!

    
 
 
Praveen
Praveen
08:33 Nov-28-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Jianjun Wu at 09:56 Nov-26-2012 .

Dear all,

To start with preparation for Level-III Basic+RT, I have listed the following study materials to order through ASNT;
BASIC
1.Level III Study guide, ASNT Basic, Revised
2.Recommended Practice No. SNT-TC-1A, 2011 edition
3.Materials and Processes for NDT Technology
4.ASNT CP-189-2011, ASNT
5.Nondestructive Testing Handbook, Second Edition, Volume 10, Nondestructive Testing Overview
6.ASM Handbook Volume 17, Nondestructive Evaluation and Quality Control
RT
1.ASNT Level-III Study guide, Radiographic testing method Scond edition.
2.Nondestructive testing Third edition: Volume 4, Radiographic testing.
3.Supplement to Recommended Practice No. SNT-TC-1A:Question and Answer Series Radiographic Testing Method
4.Working Safely in Radiography, Second Edition

I am looking for your valuable advise on the folowing;
1. Hope the above materials are enough to pass both exams

2. I have a set of the above materials which I purchased from an agency, who is conducting refresher courses, long back in around 2006. Is it would be a wise descission if I use some of the study materials from this lot like, Materials and Processes, NDT evaluation quality control and working safety in radiography to save and utilize those old books.

thanks in advance


    
 
 
carlos correia
R & D, - -
UCV & EGROUP, Venezuela, Joined Oct 2008, 120

carlos correia

R & D, - -
UCV & EGROUP,
Venezuela,
Joined Oct 2008
120
18:13 Nov-29-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Praveen at 08:33 Nov-28-2012 .

ASNT SNT TC 1A and CP189 2011 EDITIONS are Not used for current examination. You shall use 2006 edition or ASK ASNT which edition they will use for your specific examination date

    
 
 
Malik S
Malik S
19:37 Nov-29-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to carlos correia at 18:13 Nov-29-2012 .

Apply reverse engineering, if you just need certificate or have very less time.

Take bundles of MCQs and go in detail of every question, you will surely pass.

I did same technique in 15 day and cleared my Basic & MT

    
 
 
Praveen
Praveen
14:37 Nov-30-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to carlos correia at 18:13 Nov-29-2012 .

Dear Carlos,

I verified conformed as below from https://www.asnt.org/index.html;

"Effective 1 January 2013, the ASNT Level III Basic examination will reference the 2011 editions of Recommended Practice No. SNT-TC-1A and the ANSI/ASNT CP-189 standard." Thanks for your reply.

Praveen

    
 
 
suresh
Engineering, NDT LEVEL-3
NBTC, Kuwait, Joined Dec 2012, 18

suresh

Engineering, NDT LEVEL-3
NBTC,
Kuwait,
Joined Dec 2012
18
08:58 Dec-16-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Nigel Armstrong at 08:51 Dec-19-2009 .

hello sir i am planning to study asnt ndt L-3,,,, Where i can get NDT study material.

any online resources..


do u hv any question bank... can i have ?

can u give me .....for basic exam

thanks

sureshflower007@gmail.com

    
 
 
Praveen
Praveen
10:05 Dec-16-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to suresh at 08:58 Dec-16-2012 .

Suresh,

I haven't seen any online resourses where we can download study materials. I brought Basic study materials from ASNT online shop.

Praveen

    
 
 
Albert
Other, ASNT NDT Level III (MT, PT, UT and ET )
Aviation, USA, Joined Jun 2012, 140

Albert

Other, ASNT NDT Level III (MT, PT, UT and ET )
Aviation,
USA,
Joined Jun 2012
140
21:14 Dec-31-2012
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to suresh at 08:58 Dec-16-2012 .

http://www-pub.iaea.org/MTCD/publications/PDF/TCS-45_web.pdf

Iaea.org

some free stuff on there, the above link is a model question bank for MT, PT, UT and RT level 1 and 2.

    
 
 
harry lu
harry lu
10:00 Feb-23-2013
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Oliviero at 22:02 Oct-12-2011 .

In no case shall an examination be prepared or administered by the individual being examined.

help me understand this sentence please.

    
 
 
S V Swamy
Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex , India, Joined Feb 2001, 785

S V Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
785
12:07 Feb-23-2013
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to harry lu at 10:00 Feb-23-2013 .

"In no case shall an examination be prepared or administered by the individual being examined.

help me understand this sentence please."

It simply means the person being examined (the trainee, think of yourself for now as the trainee or the person appearing for the certificate examination) should not have any access to the examination paper either directly or indirectly.

Best wishes

Swamy

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ravalnath
ravalnath
11:28 Apr-08-2013
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S V Swamy at 12:07 Feb-23-2013 .

Dear Sir,

I'm new to this forum and would like to ask you regarding the level 3 examination. I want to answer the basic level 3 exam in nov 2013, however although I have experience of more than 5 yrs in ndt testing (i work for a third party inspection company) I do not possess any formal ndt level 2 certificate. I am a graduate mech engg. Is a level 2 certificate necessary to apply for level 3 or is employer's experience certificate enough.

Also pl. enlighten me on what books should I refer to study for the basic L3 examination.

Thanks & Regards,
Ravalnath

    
 
 
S V Swamy
Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex , India, Joined Feb 2001, 785

S V Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
785
15:52 Apr-08-2013
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to ravalnath at 11:28 Apr-08-2013 .

Dear Ravalnath,

You can appear directly for ASNT Level III but I would not advise that step. Without a valid level II certificate, you may not be able to perform a NDT test!

So, first get the Level II Certification and then think of level III.

Best wishes.

Swamy

    
 
 
Gerald R. Reams
Engineering,
Industry, USA, Joined Aug 2012, 178

Gerald R. Reams

Engineering,
Industry,
USA,
Joined Aug 2012
178
17:00 Apr-08-2013
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S V Swamy at 15:52 Apr-08-2013 .

I agree with Swamy. The requirement for qualifying for Level III is that you have documented experience comparable to the Level II requirements.

I too, advise gaining Level II certification along with hands-on experience, not only to qualify you for the Level III examination but also in order to have an idea of what you are doing.

However; if you truly have the experience and knowledge, all you need is to document it.

Regards,
Gerald

    
 
 
Nigel Armstrong
Engineering, - Specialist services
United Kingdom, Joined Oct 2000, 1094

Nigel Armstrong

Engineering, - Specialist services
United Kingdom,
Joined Oct 2000
1094
16:10 Apr-10-2013
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to ravalnath at 11:28 Apr-08-2013 .

Ravalnath

Does having been occasionally a passenger in a taxi over the last 5 years mean you are now capable of passing an advanced drivers test? Perhaps you were asleep or reading the newspaper whilst being driven!

Nigel

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Michael
NDT Inspector,
USA, Joined Mar 2012, 14

Michael

NDT Inspector,
USA,
Joined Mar 2012
14
17:30 Apr-10-2013
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Nigel Armstrong at 16:10 Apr-10-2013 .

He's only asking to take the basic exam, he's not asking about methods, being a passenger in a taxi, or performing Level III inspections. I found the basic exam wasn't as difficult as I thought. I would prepare using Materials and Processes for NDT Technology.

    
 
 
Michael
NDT Inspector,
USA, Joined Mar 2012, 14

Michael

NDT Inspector,
USA,
Joined Mar 2012
14
19:20 Apr-10-2013
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S V Swamy at 15:52 Apr-08-2013 .

It always strikes me as odd that those who have a Level III somehow believe it is an indication of how well you can perform an inspection. In fact, there is no correlation at all. You may be able to answer a question correctly concerning transducer travel and not be able to find the power button on the machine or interpret the results.

    
 
 
Albert
Other, ASNT NDT Level III (MT, PT, UT and ET )
Aviation, USA, Joined Jun 2012, 140

Albert

Other, ASNT NDT Level III (MT, PT, UT and ET )
Aviation,
USA,
Joined Jun 2012
140
02:04 Apr-11-2013
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Michael at 19:20 Apr-10-2013 .

the minimum experience is what ever the society says it is.

if you meet it then you can take the test, and thats it.

Get all the books, read them all, over and over again till you know it like the back of your hand.

write notes, flash cards whatever works for you till you develop a deep understanding of the material.

Swamy and a few others on here have fantastic advice on how to proceed, just search the forums. i took all the advice they posted on here and studied for about 6 months till i felt like i was ready and took and passed the ASNT level III Basic, I focused 100% on that only that and made it the first time.

Dont ever listen to anyone that tells you you need anything beyond the basic requirements, the world is full of level II's that are to afraid to test themselves and get in the arena, study and test your mettel.

if you need any more advice email me.

id be more than happy to help you out.

    
 
 
Ravalnath
Ravalnath
09:39 Apr-11-2013
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Albert at 02:04 Apr-11-2013 .

Hey thanks Albert, u really boosted my confidence!! And thanks to Swamy, Gerald, Michael and Nigel (I didn’t get the taxi/sleeping/newspaper thing but I guess your intentions are to guide me correctly) for their advice.
I wanted to know which books to refer for the basic examination. The reason I want to start now is because presently my workload is less and I do not want to waste precious time.
Regarding the qualifying experience for the examination doesn’t experience in visual inspection count (as VT is also a part of NDT). I have a total experience of around 12 years (10 odd yrs in QC/inspection field) during which I’ve been doing visual inspections regularly, and have reviewed some RT films. I know a little bit of UT, PT and MT from reading sec V.
Anyway, I am taking the level II course for the four basic methods next month and irrespective of whether I can appear for the Nov. ’13 basic exams, I will start preparing for it right away.
Rgds,
Ravalnath

    
 
 
Nigel Armstrong
Engineering, - Specialist services
United Kingdom, Joined Oct 2000, 1094

Nigel Armstrong

Engineering, - Specialist services
United Kingdom,
Joined Oct 2000
1094
12:09 Apr-11-2013
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Ravalnath at 09:39 Apr-11-2013 .

Ravalnath

In spite of seeming to be labelled as a bad boy, I read nothing in your new post that dispels my impression that you are thinking of running before you can walk. Visual inspection does not imply any experience in proper selection and application of NDT techniques.

Whether ASNT encourages highly educated but NDT-inexperienced personnel in controlling NDT is irrelevant on a professional NDT forum. (I dont believe they do as evidenced by their definition of the role and responsibility of Level 3's.) To advise anyone to seek technical control at Level 3 status (which must be your aim) before they have gained significant experience of applying the detailed Code requirements is fundamentally wrong.

I want to be a bank manager because I have watched how the bank tellers count out money and I have a pocketful of change and a walletful of notes. So shoot me!

    
 
 
S V Swamy
Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex , India, Joined Feb 2001, 785

S V Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
785
14:45 Apr-11-2013
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to Nigel Armstrong at 12:09 Apr-11-2013 .

Dear Nigel,

Your pun may be going over his head, but in simple terms, yes, I agree with you that he is taking up level III examination (what is the use of taking basic without taking some method?) without real life experience as a level 2.

I have advised him and I again stick to that advice that he should first do the level 2 courses and get some real experience before starting on a needlessly expensive journey of taking up the level 3 challenge.

I confess that I went for the level 3 directly without a level 2 certification but I was already at a very senior level and was not required to do any hands on NDT work. The organization felt the need for having a reasonable number of certified level 3 managers to approve the procedures being developed in house and being submitted by many vendors. Needless to say, I was strong in theory and had a good team to back up with practical NDT work of great quality. If I were at a lower level (like a shop floor supervisor or junior engineer) I would not have asked and of course would not have been considered for sponsoring by my organization.

I sympathize with many of the young people here who are aspiring for advancement in their career through the certification, but would advise them patience and preparation. May be I am conservative and old fashioned but that is how I look at this.

I wish Ravalnath and other aspirants the best in their career.

Swamy

    
 
 
meenakshi Saini
meenakshi Saini
09:14 Apr-18-2013
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S V Swamy at 14:45 Apr-11-2013 .

hello Sir
Can you please tell me any book for NDT Level 3 Basic exam.

thanks & Regards
Meenakshi Saini

    
 
 
Nigel Armstrong
Engineering, - Specialist services
United Kingdom, Joined Oct 2000, 1094

Nigel Armstrong

Engineering, - Specialist services
United Kingdom,
Joined Oct 2000
1094
11:39 Apr-18-2013
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to meenakshi Saini at 09:14 Apr-18-2013 .

Please show you have the necessary qualities of a prospective Level 3 in being capable AND resourceful by researching the topic properly. If there are any specific queries or doubts you have, or gain insight into other peoples' experiences, then please formulate a specific question for the forum.

    
 
 
Mick
NDT Inspector,
USA, Joined Mar 2012, 14

Mick

NDT Inspector,
USA,
Joined Mar 2012
14
17:50 Apr-19-2013
Re: asnt level 3
In Reply to S V Swamy at 14:45 Apr-11-2013 .

I just want to share with you something that happened today that rarely ever does....I took the Level III test for UT and failed but apparently there was one invalid question. When ASNT reviewed the test it resulted in a passing