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Duygu Demirci
NDT Inspector, Quality Assurance Engineer
PFW Aerospace Industry, Turkey, Joined Sep 2008, 11

Duygu Demirci

NDT Inspector, Quality Assurance Engineer
PFW Aerospace Industry,
Turkey,
Joined Sep 2008
11
15:25 Dec-10-2009
Wire Inspection

Is there any body working related to wire inspection?
Which product you use for inspection?
Do you have any special training for this inspection metod?
Which company offer products for this?

Thanks in advance
Duygu

 
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Peter Thorpe
Other,
AINDT, Australia, Joined Jan 2005, 6

Peter Thorpe

Other,
AINDT,
Australia,
Joined Jan 2005
6
00:20 Dec-11-2009
Re: Wire Inspection
In Reply to Duygu Demirci at 15:25 Dec-10-2009 (Opening).

Duygu,

There are many systems for monitoring wire rope from visual through to 24/7 fully automated units. The systems we currently use for wire ropes and for steel cord conveyors use MFL methodology (coil or Hall Effect). These tests are either carried out manually or via continuous 24/7 monitoring units and typically backed up with visual and digital x-ray inspections.

Hope this assist?

Kind regards,

Peter
peter.thorpe@rescan.com.au
rEscan International

 
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S.V.Swamy
Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex , India, Joined Feb 2001, 787

S.V.Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
787
02:45 Dec-11-2009
Re: Wire Inspection
In Reply to Duygu Demirci at 15:25 Dec-10-2009 (Opening).

The answer depends on the end use of the wire. We were using visual, dimensional, Eddy Current and metallography tests, in addition to Chemical analysis (because some impurities are picked up and gases like hydrogen are picked up in chemical picking). Since the volume of production was less, not much of automation was attempted.

If you need more specific inputs, feel free to ask.

 
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Godfrey Hands
Consultant,
PRI Nadcap, United Kingdom, Joined Nov 1998, 303

Godfrey Hands

Consultant,
PRI Nadcap,
United Kingdom,
Joined Nov 1998
303
08:11 Dec-11-2009
Re: Wire Inspection
In Reply to Duygu Demirci at 15:25 Dec-10-2009 (Opening).

Hi Duygu,
Swamy has said that there are different systems for monitoring wire rope, but do you mean wire rope or steel wire as manufactured, or do you mean wiring as used in electrical circuits.
For steel wire as manufactured, there are eddy current techniques that are used, normally on the wire drawing line, testing the product for cracks.

For monitoring of wire ropes, as said, there are MFL techniques and also one Long Range Ultrasonic (LRUT) application, used in applications such as in-service Suspension Bridge wire inspection.

Hope that helps.
Godfrey

 
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S.V.Swamy
Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex , India, Joined Feb 2001, 787

S.V.Swamy

Engineering, - Material Testing Inspection & Quality Control
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex ,
India,
Joined Feb 2001
787
02:27 Dec-12-2009
Re: Wire Inspection
In Reply to Godfrey Hands at 08:11 Dec-11-2009 .

Dear Godfrey and dear Duygu,

Just to clarify, I was not discussing steel wire rope inspection, but was discussing about zircaloy wire used in nuclear fuel bundle manufacture! But the testing and inspection techniques for wires are in general similar, with special tests being added or removed as needed, depending on the end use and the quantity involved.

Best regards

Swamy
Retired from Nuclear Fuel Complex, Hyderabad

 
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ezio
Other, Retired ex Laboratory Technical Manager
OMECO Research Centre, Italy, Joined Sep 2008, 273

ezio

Other, Retired ex Laboratory Technical Manager
OMECO Research Centre,
Italy,
Joined Sep 2008
273
11:28 Dec-12-2009
Re: Wire Inspection
In Reply to Duygu Demirci at 15:25 Dec-10-2009 (Opening).

Dear Duygu,
We have experience in monitoring wireline for oil wells, but our paper is in italian language.
Are you nevertheless interesting?
Ciao, Ezio

 
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Manuel Haces
Director, - Wire rope inspection
Haces Inspección del Noreste and Wire Rope Inspection, Mexico, Joined Jun 2002, 122

Manuel Haces

Director, - Wire rope inspection
Haces Inspección del Noreste and Wire Rope Inspection,
Mexico,
Joined Jun 2002
122
16:44 Dec-12-2009
Re: Wire Inspection
In Reply to Duygu Demirci at 15:25 Dec-10-2009 (Opening).

I have a presentation in Spanish, which I will translate to English. It was presented at the 7° National Congress in Mexico regarding NDT. It is about wire rope inspection in general. If you are interested send me an E Mail. Regards.

 
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Elvir
Elvir
13:40 Dec-25-2009
Re: Wire Inspection
In Reply to Manuel Haces at 16:44 Dec-12-2009 .

Does anyone knows the low obligation to in-force NDT on wire ropes, let say bridges?

 
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Brittany
Brittany
04:06 Feb-03-2010
Re: Wire Inspection
In Reply to Duygu Demirci at 15:25 Dec-10-2009 (Opening).

Dear Dduygu,

Happy to meet you on the forum. TCK company developed and sold four series product, namely, portable wire rope tester (TCK BX series, 1-60mm, if >60mm customized), elevator wire rope tester (TCK DT series, the only one supplier with multi-ropes in the world), steel cord real-time automatic inspection system (TCK PD series), wire rope real-time automatic inspection system.

And now one company from Turkey has purchased our instrument and we are talking about the exclusive distributor.

If you need more information, contact me at wybrittany@gmail.com.

 
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Alexander Mironenko
Sales,
INTRON PLUS Ltd., Russia, Joined Sep 2001, 17

Alexander Mironenko

Sales,
INTRON PLUS Ltd.,
Russia,
Joined Sep 2001
17
08:34 Feb-03-2010
Re: Wire Inspection
In Reply to Brittany at 04:06 Feb-03-2010 .

Hi Duygu! TCK uses weak residual magnetic field for inspection. I would recommend you to check its features carefully if you wish to use it. More info on rope NDT you will find here www.intron-plus.com.

 
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maroua
maroua
15:23 Jun-25-2013
Re: Wire Inspection
In Reply to Duygu Demirci at 15:25 Dec-10-2009 (Opening).

hi :)

Please i need some advices.
in my company we always have cutting of wire rope!!!!!
i need to calculate the service life of the wire rope and to monitor and inspect the wire regulary.
Please how can i do???
thank youuu

 
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Manuel Haces
Director, - Wire rope inspection
Haces Inspección del Noreste and Wire Rope Inspection, Mexico, Joined Jun 2002, 122

Manuel Haces

Director, - Wire rope inspection
Haces Inspección del Noreste and Wire Rope Inspection,
Mexico,
Joined Jun 2002
122
20:55 Jun-25-2013
Re: Wire Inspection
In Reply to maroua at 15:23 Jun-25-2013 .

Maroua, for inspection use Magnetic Flux Leakeage, for predicting remaining life more information is needed, it depends in type of service, which wire rope, etc. Regards

 
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Martin
China, Joined Aug 2012, 1

Martin

China,
Joined Aug 2012
1
09:46 Aug-07-2013
Re: Wire Inspection
In Reply to maroua at 15:23 Jun-25-2013 .

Hi, Maroua, have you heard of wire rope online automatic inspection system to realtime monitor wire ropes? I think it will be suitable for you. For detail, you can contact me at lianmartin@hotmail.com. I would be glad to introduce you the system in detail. Thanks

 
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