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Michael Trinidad
Consultant,
LMATS Pty Ltd , Australia, Joined Jan 2003, 138

Michael Trinidad

Consultant,
LMATS Pty Ltd ,
Australia,
Joined Jan 2003
138
06:45 Sep-28-1998
NDT Competitiveness

This post is not a technical post but I hope all feel it is relevant. I have noticed of late the increased reluctance of clients to pay for better techniques and therefore a better-finished inspection. I can understand the reluctance in recent months with the current economic situation however Australia for example has had little or no increase in NDT inspection rates for the past ten years!

This I believe to be as a result of a few factors, as mentioned already the client's desire for cheaper inspections and the abundant amount of NDT companies striving for competitiveness. I would like to ask this group is this a global trend? I work across several countries and from what I hear the western industrialized countries are most affected.

With the cost of personnel training, certifications, accreditation's all on the increase what can be done?



    
 
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Richard D. Roberts
Engineering, Executive Managment
Quest Integrity Group, USA, Joined Nov 1998, 78

Richard D. Roberts

Engineering, Executive Managment
Quest Integrity Group,
USA,
Joined Nov 1998
78
07:21 Sep-28-1998
Re: NDT Competitiveness
: This post is not a technical post but I hope all feel it is relevant. I have noticed of late the increased reluctance of clients to pay for better techniques and therefore a better-finished inspection. I can understand the reluctance in recent months with the current economic situation however Australia for example has had little or no increase in NDT inspection rates for the past ten years!

: This I believe to be as a result of a few factors, as mentioned already the client's desire for cheaper inspections and the abundant amount of NDT companies striving for competitiveness. I would like to ask this group is this a global trend? I work across several countries and from what I hear the western industrialized countries are most affected.

: With the cost of personnel training, certifications, accreditation's all on the increase what can be done?

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Dear Michael,

I can appreciate your observation with reluctance of clients to pay for better techniques and technology while demanding higher quality services and more trained NDT technicians. Here in the United States over the last 14 years I have seen the salaries of technicians gradually drop while the requirement for training and certifications steadily rise. This is primarily driven by the clients who want to pay less for more. Due to the increasing "mom & pop" companies working from their garages with very little overhead this is also a driving factor. Over the last 10 years I have traveled around the world and have found that there are few countries who are not effected by this trend. However, I have found that Canada seems to be one country who is still willing to pay for technology and a quality service.

In order to curve this downward trend I think that we must better educate our clients on the cost of the training they are requiring. If they can get an appreciation for the training investment we as an employer are required to make, they may eventually be willing to compensate more.




    
 
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Rolf Diederichs
Director,
NDT.net, Germany, Joined Nov 1998, 608

Rolf Diederichs

Director,
NDT.net,
Germany,
Joined Nov 1998
608
03:44 Sep-29-1998
Re: NDT Competitiveness
: This post is not a technical post but I hope all feel it is relevant. I have noticed of late the increased reluctance of clients to pay for better techniques and therefore a better-finished inspection. I can understand the reluctance in recent months with the current economic situation however Australia for example has had little or no increase in NDT inspection rates for the past ten years!

: This I believe to be as a result of a few factors, as mentioned already the client's desire for cheaper inspections and the abundant amount of NDT companies striving for competitiveness. I would like to ask this group is this a global trend? I work across several countries and from what I hear the western industrialized countries are most affected.

: With the cost of personnel training, certifications, accreditation's all on the increase what can be done?
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I attended a public debate at the annual DGZfP conference in September
in Bamberg. It was mentioned that German's NDT service industry suffers
from the low prices of East European NDT services. The NDT work performed
in those countries seems not to be very good. Companies noticed already that
the quality control of the quality control eats much of the virtual savings.

Rolf Diederichs


    
 
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Gord Galvin
Gord Galvin
07:16 Nov-17-1998
Re: NDT Competitiveness
: This post is not a technical post but I hope all feel it is relevant. I have noticed of late the increased reluctance of clients to pay for better techniques and therefore a better-finished inspection. I can understand the reluctance in recent months with the current economic situation however Australia for example has had little or no increase in NDT inspection rates for the past ten years!

: This I believe to be as a result of a few factors, as mentioned already the client's desire for cheaper inspections and the abundant amount of NDT companies striving for competitiveness. I would like to ask this group is this a global trend? I work across several countries and from what I hear the western industrialized countries are most affected.

: With the cost of personnel training, certifications, accreditation's all on the increase what can be done?

Their will always be client who utilize nde because they have a gun to their head ie it is mandated wrt these individuals a great deal of opposition willexist to anything other than the "best" price. However an enlightened and aware client will not balk at paying a fair price if they can see the savings downstream i mean nobody wants to be "penny wise and pound foolish"regards Gord Galvin


    
 
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